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THE TRUE IDENTITY OF THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12 Pt 10 – WHY THE CHURCH Pt 3 – WHO IS MY MOTHER?
(Ver 1.0) This is now “Part 10” in the advanced Bible study series of lessons revealing, “The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12”. If you would like to read from the beginning, you may like to go to “PART 1” first. Today’s lesson is also “Part 3” of the miniseries within the full series called “Why the Church”. If you would like to read from the beginning of the mini-series, you may like to go to “Part 8” now. Regardless of where you begin to study, this series is only intended for spiritually mature Christians. If you feel this does not describe you, please do not attempt to continue to read any of this series. It could cause some to be offended, and that is never our intention. Love demands that you judge yourself.
This mini-revealing series is designed to answer a lot of Christian’s deep questions to; how this woman could possibly be the church in the light of the apparent divine identity of her child as being the Christ? Many good people see the natural words, and description written to us, to indicate this woman could only be the virgin Mary, or the natural nation of Israel.
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Many Christians are challenged by the God given design of the book of Revelation. I believe the Holy Spirit spoke to me, and said the book of Revelation is a compilation of word images. God spoke these written words through His mouth, using His Spiritual tongue, to paint us a visually organized spiritual set of word masterpieces. These pictures were given to us from the ultimate Word Artist. His paintings are the most valuable images, and understanding them are of far greater value than owning a Picasso, or Rembrandt.
In Revelation 12, there are plainly many words, that can only be taken as symbolism, like a dragon, and a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet. These clear symbolic references are then mixed with natural descriptions, like a pregnant woman, who is crying out in pain, travailing in birth, laboring to be delivered, etc., that can easily be taken as a literal specific human event, like the birth of Christ in Bethlehem.
Think about what was just stated about these Revelation words being word pictures. Did you ever see the drawing that someone did of a beautiful woman? But then did you ever notice that if you looked as that picture with a different perspective the beautiful woman became a witch? Or did you ever notice the 3-dimensional photos, where on the surface it just looked like a lot of random colors and dots, but when your focus changed, it became an amazing 3-D picture of another object like the space-shuttle?
This is exactly what is happening in the book of Revelation, with us changing our normal human natural focus into God’s spiritual higher divine perspective. These word images do two things with amazing clarity of wisdom. These words conceal the truth with natural word thoughts that can be taken one way to hide the truth. But then they can simultaneously reveal the truth, by us only receiving the Holy Spirit to allow Him to help us change our view using the Light of His Word.
Now consider this truth. God writes about every major thing that will happen in the future, but He does it in a way to keep it from being known by His enemies. The author of the book of Revelation, who is the Holy Spirit, appears to hide the meanings of His strategies and plans from the devil. But simultaneously it appears that He desired for His saved children on the earth to be able to read and discover the real actual meanings at the right time. How can God do this using only words?
He could do this by utilizing coded message. He could write the book of Revelation using an obvious message that everyone would think that it is. But using His other writings that were written to His children, He could help then to understand the keys found in the letters, and then He could use these keys to help us find the correct definitions and meanings for what was not available to His spiritual enemies.
This is the strategy of encryption using unlocking key techniques used in software everywhere today. What if God knew that people would possess, the internet, computers, and smart phones? What if God leveraged His foreknowledge of the future to hide information about what would occur during the tribulation, because people on the earth would have this technology at the end-of-days, to solve the mysteries with His help? What if this is true?
Could this new transformative spiritual information, help us to change our perspective about what a pregnant woman wearing our closest star, and standing on the moon giving birth to a child could mean? Can we begin to see the heavenly spiritual word images, instead of the earthly natural viewpoints? Why can’t this woman mean something greater than us just trying to understand it only using natural literal imagery? Couldn’t Satan simply read about what the book of Revelation said, 2000 years ago, and then just prepare a counter-strategy, far in advance to keep it all from happening? I pray that opening will help a lot of people that are still struggling to see from God’s viewpoint.
In the last lesson we were introduced to some very new radical Bible ways to change our natural perspectives into higher spiritual perspectives, of how to see the woman in Revelation 12. Many have struggled to understand how the church is pregnant and could give birth to the Messiah. But God taught us how this picture of a pregnant woman wearing the sun, and standing on the moon, can represent the spiritual church using common well known natural descriptions. We covered 7 major points in the last lesson. It was a long essential study, but today there will only be one single but very significant subject to help shorten the length of the study. Let us review a short list of items that should have been learned in the last lesson, to help us understand that the woman in Revelation 12 is definitely the church:
|SYMBOL||NEW COVENANT REALITY|
|Rev 12:2 A pregnant woman. Can this represent the church?||Galatians 4:19 Paul gives birth again to cause the Spirit of Christ to be formed in new believers|
|Rev 12:2 The woman travailed with birth pain||Galatians 4;19 Paul also travails using the exact same Greek word to give spiritual birth|
|Rev 12:2 The woman cries out in pain (Today this is called going into labor)||1 Cor 3:8, 1 Cor 15:58, Gal 4:11, Php 1:22, 1 Th 3:5, Rev 2:2, to name only 6 verses that reveal the church is in labor to produce new children of Christ.|
|Rev 12:2 The woman waits to be delivered||Gal 4:27, Tit 2:13, Rom 7:24, 1 Cor 15:24, 2 Cor 1:10, Gal 1:4, 1 Th 1:10, these are just 7 verses of connections to the church waiting to be delivered|
|Rev 12:4 The woman brings forth the fruit of her womb||God’s desire was for man to be fruitful (Gen 1:28). God is waiting patiently to harvest this fruit (James 5:7, 18)|
We will not spend any more time reviewing the last lesson. But if you have not read this one, it is highly recommended that you go back to “Part 9” and read the series overview. However, understanding today’s subject is not dependent upon reading it. Today’s Bible lesson will stand alone if you would like to continue reading.
COMMENT QUESTION AND ANSWER
Recently during the last lessons, we have had comments that try to claim the woman in Revelation 12, represented a God designed rare occurrence within His heavenly creation for a sign. This event took place in the 2nd heaven on September 23, 2017. It is undeniable that it occurred. In this created event the claim is made that our sun was in the Zodiac constellation of Virgo. During the night sky on this date some have concluded that the stars making up the constellation Virgo were clothed with our sun. An alignment took place that had another constellation above her head named Leo. This Leo was said to be her crown of 12 stars. However, normally Leo consists of only 9 stars, but during this date, three planets could be seen in the formation of Leo. This they say was the 12-star crown.
Now, is where it becomes more interesting when observing the heavenly natural layout, with Revelation 12 verses 1-3. There was the moon and a serpent constellation aligned under the feet of Virgo. Then there was the planet Jupiter that revolved around inside of the belly of Virgo for approximately 9 months before exiting Virgo between her legs, like a type of birth.
This is truly amazing but, this event should only be viewed as a visible sign or symbol that gives us the desire to point us to know that it is now the time, for us all to go and discover what God wrote about in the book of Revelation. Beyond this meaning, it cannot be interpreted to mean anything else without Bible verses that confirm it. If you know of any you are free to share them.
At the beginning of the lesson, we talked about the era of technology that we are living in. This is clearly what Daniel spoke of in Daniel 12:4 when he prophesied that at the end, there would be a massive increase in knowledge and many people would be traveling around the world rapidly. This confirms God knew the end from the beginning.
It also confirms God knew when this constellation could be seen by human technology to help us to confirm that we were living near the time that this event in Revelation 12, needs to be understood. But what if this was only given by God to help us know the times, we were living in to help us prepare for His soon coming?
There are many issues that come to mind, if we try to make this event that occurred on September, 23, 2017, to be the fulfillment of Revelation 12:1-5. First, we must ignore that the same woman is mentioned in almost every verse to the end of the chapter. If the woman in Revelation 12:1 is a constellation, then the same woman in verse 17 is also the constellation or we are being very inconsistent in our interpretations.
The second major problem occurs by the fact that this is now 2022 when writing this lesson. This would be almost 5 years after the event and Revelation 12 must have commenced and it only lasts for 42 months. We must be inside of the tribulation very deep already, and obviously we are NOT! Therefore, the only way to view this constellation event, is to say it is a pointer signpost to investigate the true meanings of the words and cannot be the actual fulfillment.
Finally, another problem that comes to mind are the words of Jesus Christ. In Luke 17:20, Jesus says very clearly “The Kingdom of God cometh without observation”. This only means we are not going to see the Kingdom of God or Jesus coming with our natural eyes until it will be too late. Let us now go into the meat part of today’s Bible lesson. This subject will be about what Jesus thought and said concerning His physical mother Mary, when confronted with this subject while living in the flesh here on the physical earth.
WHO IS MY MOTHER, AND BROTHERS?
We are going to explore some far-reaching words of the LORD Jesus, to help us better understand, and confirm the true identity of the Woman in Revelation 12 as being the church. Do you remember the nursery rhyme called “Are you, my mother?” In this story a newly hatched baby bird, goes to look for his mother”. He asks everyone he meets, “are you, my mother?”. This bird goes to many different parts of God’s creation and asks each of them all the same question. He goes to a kitten, a hen, a dog, a car, and sees a plane. On and on until he is returned to his home nest where he finally meets his mother, and the mother asks “do you know who I am?” The little bird answers “yes you are my mother, and you are not a kitten, a hen, a dog, a car, or a plane, etc”.
This is an interesting child’s story, but it does have application to our subject of a child in Revelation 12. Would the child in Revelation 12, ask everyone, are you, my mother? That is what people in the church are doing? Or would he already know before his birth and proclaim, you are my mother, and you are not Israel, Mary, or anyone else that is natural flesh? It just so happens Jesus the Christ (Messiah in the flesh), answers this question of “who is my mother in Revelation 12”, long before the book would be written. But His words are possibly unknown, ignored, explained away, or completely rejected by those that have not seen, or do not want to see the truth. Let us read the real story and see what He reveals to us:
Mat 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
Mat 12:47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
Mat 12:48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
Mat 12:49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
These are vastly misunderstood words, that were spoken directly from the Creator God’s own mouth (John 1:1-4). If you read verse 46 carefully and thoughtfully, you discover a major problem developing with the belief of Israel and Mary being the woman in Revelation 12. Verse 46 says Jesus’ mother Mary the once virgin and Jesus’ half-brothers who were all the natural children of Israel, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, and finally Joseph and Mary (Mat 1, & Luke 3 genealogy).
Take note what Jesus does in verse 47, after being told that His natural family members including His mother Mary, were outside the house desiring to speak with Him! Jesus, practically ignores all of them, by answering the messengers in verse 48, with a question. Jesus asked them “Who is my mother, and brothers”? Sounds like a nursery rhyme question, but instead of asking those present, are you my mother, He asks them do you know who my mother is? This was an obvious question revealing Jesus already knew His spiritual mother, since He could only be speaking spiritually, and not naturally.
Please understand, that if Jesus was speaking naturally, He must have amnesia, or some mental deficiency. Then pay attention to what Jesus’ true intention was, for this mentally challenged behavior. Jesus looks at His disciples while extending His hands toward them saying, “Behold, My mother and brothers”. WOW! Please do not ignore what Jesus just said. This is Him revealing the main reason, why He spoke and acted in this manner.
Jesus, is either a ranting lunatic or He knows something we don’t! We should believe the second. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is to settle that Jesus was speaking of a radically different mother, and brothers that were NOT of the natural nation of Israel, and Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and finally Mary. Think about it?
The natural nation of Israel was sitting all around Him. He was teaching them something radically wonderful about Himself. His natural mother and natural half-brothers were standing outside of the physical house. Respectfully, Jesus should have acknowledged Mary to be His physical birth mother and his half-brothers, to be his natural co-family members. But there is no mention of any of them. Should we call Jesus a liar? Let us look at a new verse that reveals who the natural nation of Israel believed Jesus to be:
Mar 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
What we learn from reading the natural perspective of the people of Nazareth, they believed that Jesus was the elder son of the carpenter named Joseph, and Mary. They believed Jesus had 4 younger brothers named James, Joses, Judah, and Simon. They believed he had an undeclared number of sisters. All of this was true from the natural perspective and viewpoint. Wow, could this be the reason why the people today have not seen the wisdom of God in Revelation 12 yet? I believe it is.
What we are observing in scripture are two viewpoints of the same man named Jesus. All of the natural humans were uninformed and ignorant of the truth. They believed He had a human father. They believed He was born in Nazareth. They clearly did not desire to ask any questions to learn the truth, so God in the flesh was asking them a question to help them change their perspectives. Does this apply to our study lesson today? Could their limitations of knowing who and what was possible for God be limiting their ability to receive higher spiritual truth?
It must be true, because we can notice how the Spirit of God in Jesus, was not looking upon their natural earthly perspective when He asked them the question, “Who is my mother”. WOW, I pray that we are all spiritually awake with our spiritual eyes being enlightened. Let us analyze another verse that confirms how Jesus thought spiritually at the young age of 12 years old, about his natural family:
Luke 2:48 – And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
Luke 2:49 – And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
Take notice of this story that occurred when Jesus was only 12 years old. The natural family had traveled to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover. When they were returning home, Mary and Joseph finally noticed that the eldest son Jesus was not with them. It took them 3 days to find him and they discover him in the temple listening and teaching. When He is confronted by His mother Mary, saying “Son, why have you done this to us?” and “because your father and I have sought for you in sorrow”.
What was Mary’s perspective? It seems like in just 12 years’ time, she had let slip that her son’s father really was the Holy Spirit! Could she have become more naturally thinking, while Jesus in the same time had become more spiritually minded? We must ask this question, because Jesus’s words disagreed with His natural mother’s words. Therefore, since Jesus was God in the flesh we know His truth, is not calling Mary a liar, it is only a higher truth that trumps the natural perspective. Jesus is being well aware of His true Father’s identity when He asked them both two questions, “Why did you seek me?” and “Did you not know I had to be about my Father’s business”?
The only way to resolve this naturally viewed perspective problem found in two Bible examples of natural versus spiritual truth conflicts, is for us to change our perspectives, that these words of Jesus in Luke 2:49 and Matthew 12:49 were from a higher spiritual view of reality. This new way to see can help overcome our natural mind’s way of thinking, to be renewed to change our perspective to say and believe, Jesus is speaking spiritually and we were previously just thinking naturally from the very limited bit of spiritual knowledge that we had.
The prophet Jesus was in no doubt speaking prophetically in both statements about His spiritual family roles. In Luke 2:49, Jesus was speaking about His role on the physical earth as a physical man, to bring the spiritual Light of the Word to humans living in the flesh, and to die for all of our sins. Then in Matthew 12:49, when Jesus asked them the question, “Who is my brother and mother”, He was envisioning the future work of God after being raised from the dead, for the new coming reality only found in the New Covenant truth of the need to be born-again spiritually. Wow!
We can understand this by who Jesus is pointing to in Matthew 12:49, when He declares them to be His mother and brothers. It was impossible for these 12 men being pointed to, to be His physical mother and brothers. Therefore, we reject this natural belief immediately, to look for a new higher spiritual truth, since Jesus only speaks truth. All of these men, became the foundational members of the church body, with the exception of Judas. These are the men that would be like Paul, to be used by God to give birth to the soon coming new church members.
These were the men that when Jesus was raised from the dead in John 20:21-22, He appeared to them and said “Peace be unto you, as my Father has sent me, so I send you”. Jesus then breathed on all of them, with His mouth, and He told them to “Receive the Holy Spirit”. This was the beginning of the spiritual church body and bride of Christ. Jesus had just transferred the Spirit of God from the inside of His single Last Adam resurrected body (1 Cor 15:45), to His human disciples. They immediately received the same life-giving Spirit of Christ that He had on the inside of Him, and they were born-again. They received this gift, in order to now spread it continually to many others utilizing a spiritual new birthing process.
Now recall that we have learned in this series, that Jesus was called the firstborn from the dead (Colossians 1:8). Then in Romans 8:29, Jesus was called the first born from MANY brethren. The Bible begins to make so much more sense, when we begin to understand what God is saying from His perspective. This is the church rising to come up to a higher and more mature level of Christian spiritual life.
What we are now further confirming, is how Jesus can be called an “Everlasting Father” in Isaiah 9:6, in one prophecy. The only naturally born Son of God in another verse (John 3:16). And the “Firstborn” having many other “brothers” in Romans 8:29. God writes about the same Messiah from more than one perspective. Sometimes, He is God’s ONLY naturally born Son, and sometimes He is referred to as the first spiritually born Son of God with many other born-again believers. Not rightly dividing the Word of Truth is one of the main reasons why many Christians are confused.
This new knowledge should help us to better understand how Jesus could be looking at His disciples in Matthew 12, and call them by at least 2 different family relationships. First, Jesus will become an “Everlasting Father” to his new spiritual sons, through Him personally breathing upon them His internal Holy Spirit in John 20. Then we should be learning that these same apostles, can also be called His spiritual brothers by them being born-again of the same Holy Spirit as Christ was raised from the dead by. Jesus was their personal spiritual Father, by Him sowing the Word of God into their human spirits for 3 ½ years. Jesus claimed that they had been made clean by the washing of the water of His spoken words in John 15:3.
What we have also learned from reading Galatians 4, is that human male church members can travail in birth until Christ is formed in other humans to get them born again. Therefore, these human male disciples that were the founding members of the church body, can also give the new-birth to new spiritual children through laboring for Christ, to spread the Seed of Christ, in order for the Spirit of Christ, to come inside of each of us from generation to generation.
This concept represents one of the laws of God found in Genesis, called “the seed within itself”. God’s design of self-perpetuating natural entities like trees, plants, animals, and humans, would be extended into the spiritual realm to, and for His church to continue to grow and spread. However, God realized that humans needed His help not to mess it up, like the first Adam and He gave us His Holy Spirit on the inside to insure we do not fail.
What we are observing is the fact that Jesus in the flesh, knew His Spirit of Christ would be what is given to future added church members through the labor of those disciples that were seated with Him in the room. This is exactly why Jesus could point at them, and say “Behold my mother and brothers”. Let us now review verse 50 of Matthew 12, and learn why Jesus made this new inclusion of a new female type called sisters, in His family:
Mat 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.
There are many ignorant people that do not believe, that women should sow seeds to get anyone else saved. But according to Jesus the Christ, the Head of the Church, this is NOT what He was teaching the founding members of His body. Notice Jesus begins by saying “WHOSOEVER shall do the will of my FATHER!”. This is an all-inclusive statement including male, and female, bond or free, Jew or Greek”. Let us continue to learn by reading some important information to what is being taught now:
1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Notice what the Holy Spirit said in these verses. In Verse 12, He compares the naturally created human body that is made up of trillions of individual cells all being called by one name, is the same as the body of Christ being made up of millions and billions of individual human believers, with all of them being called Christ. Wow! We are ONE in Him. But these verses did not mention females. This is corrected in the letter to the Galatians:
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Paul must have obtained a new revelation from Jesus, because his statement to Corinth has been dramatically enhanced to include female humans into the same body of Christ. We can see how this new statement potentially resolves a possible issue found in Matthew 12:50, where Jesus had included both HIS brothers, and HIS sisters, to be called HIS same spiritual mother.
We must stop thinking on such a limited natural mindset. ALL Christians, are much more in Christ, than many have realized. Too many Christians are limiting what God can do with anyone that chooses to be “in Christ”, and who also lets “Christ live in them”. Every believer whether male or female, has been given the exact same great commission to go into all of the world and preach the Gospel as His physical body living on the earth (Mark 16:15).
Thank you so very much, for spending your valuable time to read this essential end-time spiritual prophetic Bible study. We have just been presented some radical new spiritual information that was taught by Jesus to the church about who this Revelation 12 woman represents, in the spiritual mind and view of God. Today, Christians have been largely ignoring these words of Christ and it is past time for this to cease. We must stop seeing the Revelation 12 male child to be the physical man Jesus, who was actually the one that was speaking in Matthew 12 to reveal to us the truth. Since they have jumped to the conclusion that the child is natural Jesus that would die on the cross, they further the confusion by claiming the woman standing on the moon and clothed with the Sun is Israel.
However, the Holy Spirit inside of Jesus, through the omniscient foreknowledge of God was inspired by Him, to teach us some important clues about the coming future book of Revelation in Matthew. Because God foreknew Christians today would struggle to see the true identity of the woman in Revelation 12 to be the church, He answered all of our questions, with us saying “how can this pregnancy be, seeing we know not a man”, just like Mary was asking the angel, and He did this long before we asked Him the question. Wow! Praise the LORD, what a God we serve!
What we are learning today, is if we are a spiritual woman who is pregnant and laboring to be delivered, then the pregnancy, the child, the labor, the delivery are also all spiritual truths, and not physical truths. The spiritual truths of God, still trumps the natural truths of man every time. Remember what Jesus said, “I only speak what I hear my Father say” (John 12:49).
Jesus, when asked to speak to His earthly mother and brothers, makes one of the most radical statements found in the Bible. To the human mind dominated by natural reasoning Jesus sounded crazy, when He pointed to His human male disciples, and called them His mother and brothers. In the natural these men were neither.
At the very same time, Jesus totally ignored Mary and the natural nation of Israel brothers that were standing outside of the house. Don’t you think that God in the flesh, knew exactly what He was saying, and doing at this dramatic moment of time? Can you see how He was helping us to understand something before we even knew that we needed to understand it? Isn’t this the nature of our God? Doesn’t He already provide for us everything that we need before we need it? This would be the nature of a God, who knows that you need before you even ask!
Did the first man Adam, and his natural wife have to starve and wait for a year before they had physical fruit to eat? Why then would the second and last Adam, and His wife the church, need to wait for our spiritual food of life to eat from? Glory to God!
Hopefully, everyone can begin to see how Jesus’ perspective was on a higher spiritual dimension of thought and reason. This is the way that we should begin to think more consistently. God said in Isaiah 55:8, “My thoughts are not your thoughts”. Do you believe He said this to demean us, or do you think that He could be challenging us to come up higher and think like Him? It should be obvious because He is love that He is only challenging us to think His way. Thank you, Jesus!
Thank you for taking the time to read and study the Bible with us. We love you very much, regardless of if you agree with us or not. God loves you the same whether you agree with Him or not also. But yet God wants us all to rise above the natural human level of perspective. Hopefully, the LORD has helped us all to do this.
THE TRUE IDENTITY OF THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12 Pt 9 – Why the Church Pt 2
(Ver 1.0) This is now “Part 9” in the advanced Bible study series of lessons revealing, “The True Identity of the woman in Revelation 12”. But today’s lesson is also “Part 2” of the miniseries within the full series called “Why the Church”. This mini-revealing series is designed to answer a lot of Christian’s deep questions to how this woman could possibly be the church. Many see the words written to indicate this woman could only be the virgin Mary, or the natural nation of Israel. This is based upon the fact that her child will rule with a rod of iron, and this MUST be Jesus in some form. No doubt this is the popular belief, and it logically stands to reason why it is believed to be this way.
What this lesson series is attempting to do, is to help you change your vision from a natural reasoning viewpoint into a heavenly God spiritual viewpoint. God sees things in ways that the carnal human does not even begin to comprehend. Therefore, it is again highly advised that you go and pray the prayer found in Ephesians 1:17-23. This will ask God to give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in knowing HIM who is Christ Jesus. Opening your spiritual eyes to see what has been accomplished by God in and through Jesus Christ. Make this prayer personal and believe God heard and answered you.
Today’s Bible lesson will deal with the Bible interpreting itself on the subject of what the pregnant woman represents and her child represents, from a Holy God perspective, and viewpoint. This should be of interest to a lot of Christians. Because it will answer a lot of questions about how this woman in Revelation 12 can represent the church. Are you excited and expecting to learn? If you really are, then you are ready to begin.
If you have not read the first part of the miniseries or the entire full series, please at least start with “Part 8 – Why the Church”, or “The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12 PART 1”. There are too many details already covered that are not able to be restated in this lesson.
First, we need to repeat the series warning. This series was written for spiritually mature Christians. For those that are newly born again, or younger Christians, you may want to go study some more basic Bible foundational subjects before trying to digest some deep eschatological study that may be hard to swallow. This decision could possibly help you not to be offended at what will be a very deep spiritual subject filled with complex spiritual information and application, about a highly controversial topic. Thank you for judging yourself before continuing.
We pray that you love God, and His Word as much as we do. We are infinitely blessed to have the author of the Bible living on the inside of us to help us all understand the mysteries of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We want to say before you begin, we love you all very much. This lesson series is founded upon divine love and no other motivation is present or hidden. Please know this before you leave any mean or nasty comments.
One of the first things to answer about the woman in Revelation 12, is to determine, if she is natural or spiritual. Is she literal, or a figurative symbol for a greater hidden spiritual message? Answering this question, can only be established based upon the context descriptions of her.
We can remember, that she is seen in heaven in verse 1. This causes us to begin to lean to understand that she is a spiritual reality. But then we see she is clothed with the sun and standing on the moon. Both of these CANNOT be taken literally, and this almost seals the confirmation that she is a spiritual being. The major confirming sign that this chapter is speaking of spiritual realities, is the mention of the dragon and the ancient serpent, who God defines to be Satan and the devil. This being is certainly a spirit being, therefore, the woman can only be interpreted as spiritual also.
Please remember the basics of eschatological hermeneutical principles. Here is a fundamental rule to begin “If the plain sense, makes perfect sense, seek no other sense”. Because the first verse in Revelation 12, does not make plain and perfect sense, this forces us to seek God for the actual true sense. People have tried to answer this problem by searching the Bible for any references to the “sun, moon, and stars”. They have then found one reference in Genesis 37:9 in the dream of Joseph.
This was used rapidly to confirm in their minds that the woman can only be the natural nation of Israel, since that is what the dream was about. But they ignored the placement of these objects on and around the woman because these facts do not make plain sense. Because the placement of these objects is important, and they were defined by Jacob to be clear symbolic references to specific individuals, we should try to apply this information into the Revelation 12 interpretation of the symbolic elements. But few have tried to do this.
We will be exploring a lot of great new hidden secrets of God concerning the church. What we are discovering is that the woman in Revelation 12, represents a victorious church that has overcome the enemy Satan. It must be understood that the two key chapters to understanding Revelation 12, is to first understand Genesis 3 and then understand Galatians 4. These two chapters have direct connections to what God wants us to learn about Revelation 12. But we will also be going over other verses to help us. Let us look at some new insights about what we learned in the last lesson, before we continue to today’s subjects.
NEW REVELATION 12:1 INSIGHTS
In the last lesson we did an overview of some of the key aspects and descriptions found in Revelation 12:1. We all know there was a woman, that appeared in heaven. She is said to be clothed with the sun. We have learned that this means she is clothed with Jesus, the Sun of Righteousness (Malachi 4:2). But there is much more to this sun symbol than just this single great revelation. For example:
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Notice what this verse says to us. God says put on His armor. Then we find in the book of Romans:
Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
Ok, now we are gaining important insight into what type of clothing we in the church are supposed to be wearing. Our spiritual armor is called “the armor of light”. Wow, what does the sun do for our world? The sun gives us light by day. Now we are confirming we are in God’s kingdom of Light and the Day (1 Thessalonians 5:5). We are supposed to take off the works of darkness, and put on this (sun) light armor.
By casting off our clothes (works) of darkness, what happens to them? They fall to the floor of course. If they fell, are they under us, or above us? Uh oh? This is just more confirmation that the moon under our feet in Revelation 12:1, are things that we have put off and thrown down and this allows us to be standing above the moon. Do you see how this truth concerning the church matches the description of the woman so far very well?
This new information about clothing being like works for good or evil, implies that we are supposed to be doing works for God’s Kingdom of His dear Son, and not the works of the enemy. What we must conclude is that wearing the Sun in Revelation 12:1 is the same as wearing Light as an Armor in Romans 13:12, and this must be connected with doing good “works” for the Kingdom of God on the earth. Can we agree so far? This will get much clearer soon as you continue to read.
But also notice in Ephesians 6:11 God says by wearing His full armor, the church (we) will be able to stand against the enemy. Notice the mention of standing. Does this involve the feet? Of course, it does, and we see a woman in Revelation 12:1 with her feet, which are implied to be standing on, and above the moon. We have already determined very clearly; the moon is the representative symbol of the ruler of the darkness who God calls Satan (Ephesians 6:12).
Again, we have this connection being made in Romans 13:12, with the mention of “night” and “darkness”. Being connected with the armor of “light” and the mention of “day” being at hand. The woman in Revelation 12, is certainly standing in the Daylight of the Sun. We are experiencing another confirmation for who the woman in Revelation 12:1 really represents, and how the church is planned by God to overcome the devil, by wearing God’s defensive weapons and by wielding God Spiritual Sword, called the Word of God. Amen.
SEEING REVELATION 12
FROM GOD’S SPIRITUAL VIEWPOINT
Let us review one of the foundational verses for this miniseries of lessons about WHY the church is the woman in Revelation 12. We should be attempting to rise far above the normal natural human perspective of things that anyone can read in the Bible. We can read in Isaiah 55:8, “My thoughts are not your thoughts, and my ways are not your ways”. It is very clear from this statement that God claims to be smarter than us, and to think and see things different than we do as humans. This is one of the reasons, Jesus came to the earth to help reveal God’s higher thoughts and ways to us, and here is one thing that He said about this subject of perspectives:
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Remember again that Jesus gave us this “key to help us in understanding God’s thoughts”. Knowing this will be a huge benefit to understanding a great portion of the book of Revelation. We must begin by understanding that God is a Spirit (John 5:24). If God is a Spirit, and it was Him who designed and authored the book of Revelation (2 Tim 3:16). God selected a writing technique utilizing many major patterns from natural symbolic objects and realities, that reveal unseen existing higher spiritual truths, entities and realities.
But here is a potentially new revelation for you. God expects you to become a mature Christ follower. He expects His church to grow up spiritually (1 Peter 2:2). This simply means we are not supposed to remain as carnal thinking humans. This should help you to see the necessity to change our thoughts to conform to His. This is essential for understanding the book of Revelation.
Today we will focus on the natural subjects of the process of a physical woman’s pregnancy, labor, and delivery of a child. In this analysis, we will confirm and apply what this natural process represents, in the spiritual birth process that is taught to us in the Word of God. Probably most of you have never thought of this or studied this subject, until now. Is a spiritual woman’s process of giving spiritual birth, the same types of experiences as the natural birthing process? That should sound interesting to a lot of Christians who want to know the truth.
We will be going through additional verses in Revelation 12, starting with verse 2 and possibly continuing to verse 6. What will help you to see these verses differently, is by changing your perspective and expectation for who you may have ignorantly “pre-judged” her to represent. To “pre-determine” who she represents before you see all of the evidence, blocks your ability to see any truth that God really desired you to see. There are a lot of Christians that are closed minded to change any viewpoint. Some have called these types of people, “concrete Christians”, meaning they are thoroughly mixed up and firmly set, and almost impossible to change even with the greatest message of truth. We pray no one reading fits this description. Please, decide to be an Acts 17:11, more noble type of Bible student.
This is a common tactic of the devil, to block God’s revelation from being seen. As long as Satan can get us to seek words that makes this woman to be only natural Israel, then that is what we will see and find. This fact of what we seek for, determines what we find, is based upon the law Jesus spoke to us in Matthew 7:7. Therefore, instead of seeking to find natural Israel, just ask God to help you to seek the truth, and you are promised to find it (John 16:13).
Imagine in your spirit, that the Holy Spirit came to you in an audible voice and said “This woman is the Church”. Would you ignore this personal God visitation to help give you this revelation? Some people do this all the time. But not with an audible voice from God. No, God uses pastors and teachers of the Word of God by giving them the revelation, and then helping them to present it to the rest of the Body of Christ. This method of divine operation is so easy to bypass and ignore as false teaching, simply because a message did not conform to what you believed it said. Uh oh?
Therefore, allow the Holy Spirit that lives in you to bear witness with what you are reading today. If the Holy Spirit, makes you feel very unpeaceful, then please reject and ignore everything that this internal feeling occurs upon. It is possible, that God will give you peace with certain parts of the message and not every part. If that occurs, then be as wise as an old cow feeding in a pasture, eat the good green grass and spit out the bad tasting sticks. But if the Holy Spirit gives you perfect peace in your spirit, then that should be a sign to you, that this should be given your attention. Finally, are we ready to go? Let us turn to Revelation 12:2 and begin our study.
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
Ok, these are really awesome word selections displaying an intentional intelligent design and designer behind them. God’s intelligence is so far beyond ours, that we easily miss the spiritual truths that He is speaking using a naturally coded message. Remember that it is much easier for us to understand the spiritual truths, by first coming to understand the corresponding natural truths. Let us list some of the major new qualities and descriptions of the woman in Revelation 12 verses 2 through 5:
- Verse 1 informed us that there is a woman in heaven who is “with” child in verse 2.
- Therefore, she is crying out, while travailing in labor in the spirit realm.
- She is experiencing pain while waiting to be delivered.
- An evil dragon stood before or against her.
- The dragon waits to devour the male child as soon as he is born.
- After birth her child was caught up to God and to His throne.
- The woman goes into a wilderness prepared by God to be fed for 3 ½ years.
We will not go into tremendous detail, but we will try to take each point, one by one. However, this lesson will not be able to touch on every subject, because of the length of the lesson that this would cause. It is wise to warn you that this will still be a long Bible lesson. It is recommended that you break it into seven separate study sessions, unless you have the time to do it all in one study. Today we will focus our study upon seven sections of information which are:
- A Woman with child, which will take us to the next subject.
- Can the spiritual church of Jesus Christ, have a spiritual child or children?
- Then we will learn about how God reveals the spiritual woman the church has children.
- Next, we will review what are the differences between spiritual and physical births.
- Next, we will address, the spiritual concept of labor.
- Next, we will address the spiritual subject of fruit.
- Finally, we will address the spiritual subject of delivery.
If you notice these are all components found, or implied in the natural concepts of birth that were listed within Revelation 12, but instead of looking at them from the physical perspective, we are going to shift into the higher dimension of seeing them from God’s spiritual viewpoint, revealed in the Holy Bible. If you are ready, let us get started.
1. WOMAN WITH CHILD
What do these natural words, descriptions, and symbols teach us? First, we must begin by understanding that everything stated in these verses (1-6) are predominately spiritual truths that are being taught to us with a mixture of both supernatural, and common descriptions of natural realities. Please take notice that the words spoken DO NOT teach a natural how to guide for human pregnancy. No, God is only using concepts that most are already familiar with to help reveal the hidden unknown spiritual message.
Without this foundation, you will be very confused. Let us go over a quick list of what we should be able to see in Revelation 12:1-6:
- Remember that a woman (wife) in a relationship with God always represents a covenant partnership. We can learn this in several verses, but research Jeremiah 31:32 (Israel), and Matthew 9:15 (Church) to see two references.
- This statement implies that this woman was previously a physical reality upon the earth, before she was taken into heaven. We can confirm her simultaneous existence in both heaven and on the earth, reading verse 6.
- Therefore, we can conclude that God/Jesus must have taken this woman up to be with Him at the throne. Does this sound like a type of rapture for those that were ready with oil in their lamps? In this story 5 virgins were not prepared and did not enter into the wedding. These could represent the people that were left on the earth who repented and returned to Christ. We will find more evidence coming to support this view soon.
- Also, this verse implies that this woman’s appearance in heaven was because she is considered righteous and not of the kingdom of darkness. We will see this more clearly when we look again at her clothing.
- Is the church viewed as a spiritual woman to God?
- Can a spiritual woman give birth?
- Is a spiritual woman’s child also spiritual?
- What does it mean to be spiritually pregnant?
2. DOES THE BIBLE SPEAK OF
SPIRITUAL CHILDREN THAT ARE
BIRTHED BY THE CHURCH?
This is a very major and significant question that must be answered accurately, in order for us to believe, and confirm that this woman in Revelation 12 could represent the church. It is plainly stated in Revelation 12:2, that this woman was pregnant, and she was crying out while travailing with labor pains, waiting to be delivered. Please remember that this Greek word used to describe the pregnant “woman”, is the same word used to describe the Lamb’s “wife” in Revelation 19.
This is a lot of amazing information that we just read. This clearly describes the natural process of birth. But does this information also have spiritual applications for the church? I believe with all of my heart that it ALL DOES. To begin, we will only focus upon answering the question, can the spiritual church body (Romans 12:5), have a spiritual child?
The Greek word G5043 that was translated as “child” twice in Revelation 12, verses 4 and 5, describes the male child that was born to the woman. But this same word is used many times in the New Testament to describe both natural, and spiritual children. A search of this word in the New Testament reveals a lot of valuable information.
Also, it is very interesting to notice that this exact Greek word is never used to describe the baby Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem of the virgin Mary (Israel). It is only used to described the physical child that was born of Elizabeth, whose name was John. But for Jesus, it is NOT used. This appears to be another strike against the child in Revelation 12 being the newborn baby Jesus. Let us go to the first book of the Corinthians next, to see what Paul wrote to the church:
1 Cor 4:14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.
This is a very interesting verse of truth. Paul writing to the church in Corinth, calls them “his” beloved “sons”. It just so happens the Greek word translated as “sons” is the exact same word G5043 translated as “child” in Revelation 12. Is that a coincidence? I ask that question a lot, to get you to think. There are no coincidences in the Bible. If this is a spiritual parent child relationship, we should begin to ask, is Paul their spiritual father or mother? Uh oh? That sounds like satanic gender confusion.
We all should know the Apostle Paul was a human male. We also should all know that Paul was an unmarried bachelor (1 Cor 7:8). Therefore, it is impossible for Paul to have had natural children in this verse in 1 Corinthians 4:14, and he must be speaking spiritually. Let us read down a few verses and see another usage of this same Greek word:
1Co 4:17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
Here, we can confirm again, that a male name Timotheus, is being called a spiritual child of his spiritual parent also a male named Paul. Wow, if that is not amazing, I do not know how to then get you awake. This described parent and child relationship is purely spiritual, and not physical. We should believe that these types of spiritual revelations, are the reason why Satan is bringing up the confusion of natural sexual identity. Satan will attempt to use this evil, to turn people away from the spiritual truth of God’s word.
It is interesting that this same pattern is repeated again in 1 Timothy 1:2, and 2 Timothy 1:2, where Paul calls Timothy his dear son (child) in the faith. This is again repeated in Titus 1:4 where Paul calls Titus, his own son (child) after the common faith. We are seeing a pattern of spiritual truth that must NOT be ignored. God confirms very clearly that there exist spiritual births that come by spiritual parents.
Now who is PAUL? Paul is a male member of the early corporate church body. He is one of the chief spiritual leaders of the Christian faith. He wrote 2/3 of the New Testament, so he definitely knows what he is talking about. Paul should be considered to be a representative of the spiritually mature part of the body of believers, since he was the one that was teaching them how to grow spiritually (1 Cor 3:2). Since Paul is one major member of the entire church, Paul qualifies to be called a spiritual woman bride. Paul is confirming that the church can have spiritual children with some of the body being a mature parent, and new believers of the body being their child (G5043). Can we all agree so far? It only gets more amazing from here.
3. HOW WOULD THE SPIRITUAL CHURCH
BRING FORTH SPIRITUAL CHILDREN?
Please take note that this is the next most significant question for us to answer, in order for us to determine if someone specific in the church, or the church as a combined whole can conceive, bare, and bring forth a spiritual child. Let us take a look at a verse in Philemon:
Phm 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:
Here is Paul writing to the church and claiming to have given birth to a son while being bound in chains. The Greek word G1080 that is translated as “begotten” literally means to “procreate”. This word procreate can mean, “to multiply by sowing seed”. This word can certainly apply to both the natural methods of procreation, and the spiritual methods of procreation.
It can also be applied to the father as the seed supplier, or the mother as the seed receiver. Therefore, which one is Paul claiming to be? It is entirely possible that Paul is claiming to be both. That is a difficult new question to answer in detail, in this Bible study series, but it is answered in the Bible very clearly.
What is the answer? The answer comes from Genesis 2. This is where God gives us the details of Adam’s creation and how his wife came out of his side. This was the exact pattern that occurred in the Spirit realm when Christ died on the cross and was raised from the dead to become the second man (1 Corinthians 15:47). Jesus is also called the Last Adam in 1 Corinthians 15:45.
To help us confirm that what happened to the first Adam, is what happened to the second Adam (Jesus), we must also know Romans 5:14, where God teaches clearly that the first Adam was a “figure” of Jesus to come. The Greek word translated as “figure” means” a “sample type”, “pattern”, “model”, and “style”. Wow, that is powerful.
This knowledge teaches us that what was recorded to happen to Adam, will be the prophetical “pattern” for what must happen to Jesus during His manifested presence upon the earth. But Jesus will make the right choices and His wife and bride will NOT be deceived. Again, we have the prophesied victory of a woman over Satan spoken from God’s mouth in Genesis 3. God’s Words WILL come to pass, and the time is now for the victory.
But we did not answer the question, how can a natural male in the church be both the spiritual mother and the spiritual father of new spiritual children in the church? The answer is still found in Genesis 2. Adam was put to sleep, and Jesus was put to sleep on the cross. Adam’s side was opened to remove Eve, Jesus’ side was opened to pour out blood and water to save His church bride. Because the first natural woman was taken out of Adam, the last spiritual woman was taken out of Jesus. But God said in the Law of Covenant Marriage in Genesis 2:24, the “two shall be one flesh”. We learn in 1 Corinthians 6:17, that whoever is joined (married in a covenant) to the LORD is ONE SPIRIT! This teaches the concept of two being called one, as long as one is a male, and the other is the female joined in matrimony.
Please remember Eve, is a prophesied pattern of the spiritual church and not natural Israel. Then recall in Genesis 3:10, Adam calls His wife by the name Eve, because she is the mother of all living. Wow! This is where Christians are missing a major revelation of the church’s role in the kingdom of God immensely. This pattern of Eve being the mother of all the natural living human race teaches us that the church must also be a mother to all the spiritually living born-again believers in Christ. How does this occur? How is this even possible?
If Eve is one pattern of who the church is, and she was a mother the natural living, then this matches the description of the pregnant woman in Revelation 12 being a spiritual mother of the spiritual living. It is possible a lot of people will not be able to comprehend this immediately. Especially spiritually immature Christians. But we will soon see more evidence for what is being taught by the Holy Spirit. Thank you, Jesus.
We do not have time to cover this part in depth. This should be a Bible study series, all by itself. But there are more than enough facts of spiritual truth being given to you to continue to study and confirm more of this with other scriptures. I would suggest that you go and read the Bible study about “How did the church became the body of Christ”.
You might also like to read and study verses like “Romans 12:5”, and “1 Corinthians 12:12, 27”. In these two verses, the church members are called the body of Christ on the earth. This clearly is God calling His female church bride by the male name Christ, also being His body. Therefore, we can confirm how the woman bride is being given the same name as He does (Christ) through the covenant that we have entered into with Him. Wow, this is awesome when you see it. How can spiritually born-again people on the earth be our risen savior’s body, while He is physically seated in heaven? This is how God reveals hidden spiritual mysteries. God reveals this problem and answered it very clearly in Ephesians 5. We need to move on to a new verse that may help people to see what is being taught.
My special reader asked, “How can the woman be the church, since we did not birth the Messiah”. My response should be, “SAYS WHO?” What we are about to confirm using the Bible, is that the church actually does birth the Messiah, but our spiritual child is not the physical Jesus born in the form of a baby, in a manger in Bethlehem. Remember to stop thinking carnally, and look for the spiritual realities of God in scripture.
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
This is one of the most amazingly obvious proof texts confirming the church to be the woman in Revelation 12:2. Notice that this is Paul writing to a different church in Galatia. He uses the same terminology “children” to describe his relationship with them. The Greek word G5040 translated as children comes from the Greek word G5043 used in Revelation 12. Therefore, God confirms that we have a direct connection that He is speaking of the same subject.
Then notice the Greek word G5605 that is translated “travail in birth”. Wow, this is the exact same Greek word used to describe the woman in Revelation 12:2. Now we have two direct word connections and this one is overwhelming and irrefutable. It just so happens that Galatians 4 and Revelation 12 are the only times this word is used by the Holy Spirit in the ENTIRE BIBLE. That makes this the ultimate qualified match.
Mary is never described using this word, and certainly not Israel either. This evidence of intelligent divine design, narrows the possibilities of choice that could have been easily changed by God, selecting and using different Greek words in either verse. There are many other possible word selections to describe child birth. This specific identical word choice, simply confirm that the woman in Revelation 12, can be NONE OTHER THAN THE CHURCH!
We must conclude that Paul by travailing the same as the woman in Revelation 12, is proclaiming to be that woman. Whether Paul knew this in his mind or not, it was what the Holy Spirit inspired him to write. Therefore, God is ultimately making the match.
Ok, here is what we MUST notice in this verse. My reader said the church never gave birth to Messiah, but here is the clear evidence proving the church does give birth to Messiah. The Greek word G5547 is translated as Christ. This is the Greek word for the Hebrew word translated as Messiah (H4889). Both words mean “the anointed one”. Clearly God has just confirmed the Church does give birth to Messiah, but this Messiah is definitely not the natural child in Bethlehem. Are we all awake yet?
What else is important to learn from this verse? Notice that Paul said I travail in birth AGAIN, until Christ be formed in you. This is amazing! Paul is claiming to be a female that gives birth to children. Paul is also claiming this is NOT HIS first-time laboring to give birth. The word “again” clearly implies there have been MANY births, and we can see this from all of the children references that Paul claims to be the birth mother of. Wow, this is amazing if you will receive it.
4. THAT WHICH BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH
AND BORN OF SPIRIT IS SPIRIT
This is a majorly deep spiritual topic today, and our prayer is that it does not escape your understanding of God’s Truth. We have talked more than once in this series of lessons about this subject, that was brought to us by Jesus in John 3:3-6. Jesus taught clearly to Nicodemus and us, revealing that there are two types of “births” possible, and they DO NOT MIX. For humans, the natural comes first, and then and only then does the spiritual re-birth become possible. You should remember that we have already established from John 3 that only a spiritual woman can give birth to a spiritual child. Therefore, Paul as a born-again spiritual participant in the New Covenant, is qualified to give birth to new spiritual children who have the Spirit of Christ. Let us look at an important verse:
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Here is an essential concept concerning two kinds of children that come from two kinds of seeds, resulting in two kinds of births. The first was the natural human child birth process, and the second is introducing us to the “promised spiritual re-birth” process, that was also mentioned by Jesus in John 3. God begins by comparing children of the flesh that came from natural Israel, with the children of the promise. Uh oh? What God is doing is informing us, that He promised all humans, that He would have spiritual children. Please go and reread Galatians chapter 4. Because this is a vital chapter needed to understand Revelation 12. Here is just one verse to pay close attention to:
Gal 4:23 – But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
In chapter 4 of Galatians, God gave us an allegory using Abraham, Sarah and Hagar to confirm to us an exceedingly important spiritual truth. Sarah and Hagar had two types of children because of who they were naturally. These two symbolic sons that were birthed, by two different symbolic women, represent the concepts of flesh births, versus spirit births. The first son born was Ishmael, and he is called a son of the flesh and the son of the bond (slave) woman because he came by the will of man. But then came Isaac who is referred to as the promised son who came from Sarah, and she is called the “freewoman” who came by the will of God.
We learn in Galatians 4, that this son named Isaac, was a type of the spiritual Christ that the church comes out from. This makes this type of Isaac the promised child, who is the risen from the dead spiritual Jesus Christ (Romans 7:4). I pray no one is choking on the meat that the Holy Spirit is trying to feed us. I will encourage you that once you see this truth, it is impossible not to see it everywhere in the Bible. Notice what else God said to us in Galatians 4:28:
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Paul writing to the church (the members of the body of Christ) in Galatia, and he is calling them, both his brothers as well as children, is confirming that they were, as well as we are, the promised spiritual “Christ” child spoken of to Abraham. This is an amazing revelation. But you really need to go back to Galatians 3 and study to see that the promise given to Abraham was the promise of the Spirit that will be birthed in every believer in Christ. Please read this very carefully stated truth in Galatians 3:14. If you are lost with this new information, be patient and do not throw it away. It is the truth. Let us explore this more by explaining how we can be called simultaneous brothers with Christ and other believers, and be called promised children of God, and Christ at the same time.
We are named Christ, because we are the body of “Christ” (1 Corinthian 12:27). Each individual believer represents one spiritual member, in the one spiritual body of CHRIST with every believer being joined to Him and every other believer to form this ingenious new spiritual body (Romans 12:5, 1 Corinthians 5:4). This new growing body of the Spirit of Christ, can also be called the temple of God (1 Corinthians 6:19).
This new spiritual design of joining believers as cells in a human body, or bricks in a temple, is practically identical to the created human body consisting of potentially trillions of individual cells, and all of them being joined together are called by the name that was given to us by our natural parents, when we were born naturally. The human body comes from the union of just two physical cells. But from these two cells, they grow by division, and spread out to every other cell, increasing until full maturity. Even after maturity, cells die and are replaced with new cells in most tissues.
This human natural growth process from two joined cells, is the exact same process that is happening in the spiritual realm for the spiritual body of Christ. Jesus was called the firstborn from the dead in Colossians 1:18. In this same verse Jesus is also called the “head” of the body (of Christ) in order that He might have preeminence.
It is the head that controls the body and not the other way around. This makes HIM LORD and not any other individual spiritual cell joined to Him (in Covenant) in His spiritual body. Are you getting this, because this is an amazing new revelation for many Christians? In His new spiritual body, He is the head, and we are HIS body members (Ephesians 1:22-23), with all of us together being called Christ. There is no sane way to separate a person by naming His head Christ, and His body (the church) something else. They are called by ONE name.
Jas 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
In this verse James inspired by the Holy Spirit, writes about Christians being spoken of by other humans wrongfully. God is making the claim that when they do this, they are blaspheming the “worthy name” which they are called. This name has to be “Christ”, because no other human name can be worthy. There are many spiritual aspects of being one with Christ, and here is another factor for us being called by His name as a born-again believer:
Rom 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
Paul makes a comparison of order and likeness. Paul informs us that Andronicus and Junia were his kinsman. This Greek word G4773 literally means a relative by blood. But you can tell by the names of these people in Rome, they are probably not Jewish. Therefore, Paul is not speaking naturally and this can only be a spiritual relationship by the blood of Jesus. Yes? This was the message of these men were like me.
Then comes the mention of order. Paul is teaching us next how these Christians became members of the same spiritual family, by entering into CHRIST. But we also can notice that Paul said these entered into Christ, before he did. This truth is based upon our natural time line. We are recognizing another parallel, between the natural and the physical birth process of organized order that is noted by God.
Therefore, we are learning of two simultaneous realities that occur at a new spiritual birth into God’s Kingdom. This is a very essential truth to learn. When you are born-again by believing in Jesus being raised from the dead, and confessing Him as your Lord (Romans 10:9-10), you are reborn into a brand-new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17). This means this had never existed before Jesus was raised from the dead. He became the first born from the dead and each of each us after enter into Him in order of believing.
When this happens to you by believing in Him, you enter into Christ, and the Spirit of Christ also enters into you, and you reside in both the natural, and heavenly dimensions simultaneously. WOW! Did you know this already? If you did, do you understand the power that was needed to accomplish this (Ephesians 1:19-20)?
What we are learning today is awesome. We should now have begun to understand that Jesus seated in heaven right now, is the physical raised from the dead man, named Christ in the spirit realm. He is the mediator of the New Covenant (Hebrews 9:15) that we are in. But simultaneously born-again Christians living on the earth. are also called by His name Christ, because we have His Spirit on the inside of us. We are IN HIM, and HE is in us. This was God’s plan from the beginning and His wisdom is amazing!
If it would help you, please take note of Genesis 5:1 where God describes Himself creating man as a male and a female. God then says He called both of them by the name “Adam”. This matches what God did for Christ Jesus and His Church, by calling us both Christ.
Ok, everyone needs more verses to confirm the truth. God says in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, let every word be established. Notice in 2 Corinthians 6:15, God through Paul writes what fellowship does “Christ” have with “Belial”. The church is very clearly stated to be named “Christ”, and if we join ourself to a devil, we are joining the body of Christ to that same spirit. Paul is writing that this should never be. Do you see this?
Now look at 1 Corinthians 6:15, and see that this is the exact same truth. In this verse, God through Paul says the church as a member of the body of Christ, we must not allow Christ to be joined to a harlot. This is just one of several other places where the church is referred to by the name of Christ.
But how does this work? We learn another important piece of the puzzle in Romans 8:10. In this verse God reveals that it is the Spirit named “Christ” that comes to live on the inside of our human body. Wow, because every born-again Christian has the same Spirit of Christ, we are all of the same name of Christ and represent one living and growing spiritual body of a child on the earth.
This brings up another new point. What happens when a Christian dies? Their spirit departs the earth body of Christ and goes to be with the spiritual body of Christ in heaven (Philippians 1:23). This helps to solve how a spiritual woman in heaven in Revelation 12:1, can still have parts of her same body as a remnant left here on the earth to battle with the dragon in verses 6 and 17. But this is probably a different topic for later.
So, we have learned how the spiritual process of a child growth and development can be understood, by us viewing a natural child’s development process. This will be brought up again in this lesson later, so please do not forget it. But remember this is what we are seeing happen to the woman in Revelation 12 with a growing child in her womb.
God was a genius in transforming one natural seed named Jesus (John 12:24), into a growing corporate spiritual entity consisting of millions and even billions of individual spiritual cell members. He did this in His own one Body and then He calls us by the same name Christ. And this is legal because we all have the same Spirit of Christ abiding on the inside of us. Wow! This truth has a far-reaching application to help us understand, and explain how the church will end up victorious over the devil. It also teaches that God views us (the church) the same as HIM. Let us take a quick side journey to help someone that needs to know how their prayers can be answered:
Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
This verse shows us why we can come to The Father in prayer with confidence, and ask Him our request. We can do this boldly because we ask in His name, and the Father in heaven will answer, because of who we are in HIM, and not based upon who we are on the earth, or what we have done. It is also important to notice the mention of bring forth fruit. We will be talking about this concept in a soon coming section in much more detail. Just take note of the connection being made by God’s design.
Now that we are beginning to learn and understand, how the church can be represented to be one body of one spiritual growing child. We need to explain, how new spiritual cell members in this growing body, came to exist. In the natural realm there are a lot of cell divisions that occur and each are just grown into a new body component, but in the spiritual realm it is slightly different. But this helps to explain how we can be both brothers and children of the same cell that birthed us. This is actually very similar to the natural if you think about it.
We are spiritual brothers because we are from the same spiritual Father (Holy Spirit, also known as the Spirit of Christ in Romans 8:9). We are spiritual children of others in the church, because we have God’s Spirit of Christ that was birthed on the inside of us from sowed Word (seeds) into our hearts shared by others in the body of Christ. These spiritual laborers, got each of us born-again spiritually, while they were travailing in birth, to bring us out of the flesh, and into the spiritual Kingdom of God. Praise the LORD!
We can further confirm what was just taught by analyzing Galatians chapter 3 that is directly connected with Galatians 4. In this chapter we learn two very important concepts about Abraham. First, we learn Abraham’s promised seed (son) was CHRIST by reading Galatians 3:16. In this verse the LORD says the seed is singular and not plural that God was speaking. Wow, that truth is ignored by a lot of Bible teachers. The main take away is for you to know God said His promised seed was only CHRIST! Please take note the name JESUS was omitted from this verse, even if we understand this was who came first to be born as the CHRIST.
Galatians 3 continues with a discussion between the promise and the law that was unable to nullify the promise because it occurred over 400 years before the law came. Then notice in Galatians 3:26 where God says we in the church have all become His children through our faith in CHRIST Jesus! Pay attention to the flipping of the order of the names, and take a note that God did not say “Jesus CHRIST”! God is so specific to even the order of words, that reordering them has a meaning about things beyond our imagination.
Now pay close attention to Galatian 3:27. This is another direct connection to Revelation 12 where the woman was clothed with the sun. Here we see how when we now in the church, are baptized into CHRIST, we have put on CHRIST. Again, this is amazing spiritual information that occurred when we were born-again. But it still directs us to Revelation 12 to confirm it is the church that is represented there.
Now for the sake of time we will jump to Galatians 3:29. In this verse God wrote about the church again, and here He says “If you be CHRIST, then are you Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the “promise”. Ok, if you study you will notice that I changed the translated possessive tense word “Christ’s”, to “CHRIST” not being the possessive tense. However, this Greek word 5547, Christos is translated as “Christ” the majority of the times it occurs. In other words, this word occurs 569 times in the New Testament, and it is translated as Christ in 553 of them. It would therefore, be legal to make it fit the majority if it works, and makes plain sense in context. I believe it does.
Nevertheless, it cannot be denied that there are times that it does appear to be correctly translated as “Christ’s”, with something belonging to Him. This is legitimate either way in this verse of Galatians 3:29. Whether we belong to His spiritual body, or are being called by His name Christ, it is the same end result as we have learned.
Notice the mention of a promise again? These are amazing connections being made. Do you understand what the LORD is saying? I mean really, do you? This is a radical statement of your identity, and who you now are to GOD! God just called you Christ! God just said you are Abraham’s promised seed. Being the promised seed child, you have become a spiritual heir and a joint-heir with CHRIST (Romans 8:17). Let us back up in Galatians 3 and see what you may have missed:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
What may help you in understanding, is go back to Galatians 3:14. Notice again what this verse said. Also notice this time God included the name Jesus before CHRIST. This qualifies the reference of CHRIST, to be only the physical man Jesus who died for our sins. It is by our faith in His finished work for us, that Abraham’s “promised” blessing is able to come upon the entire human race. This we can learn was the promise of the Spirit to live on the inside of us through faith in JESUS CHRIST ALONE! It was only us being born of the Holy Spirit, and being joined with the Holy Spirit, that gives us this opportunity to be named CHRIST. This was the promised GOSPEL that was preached to Abraham (Galatians 3:8), even if he never understood it on the earth (Matthew 13:17).
This potentially new spiritual information may be overwhelming to some. It will take some a lot of prayerful thought and study to come up to a higher dimension of spiritual growth to see it. No one is claiming to be GOD. No one is claiming to be JESUS. We are just reading what God has done for us and acknowledging this is an amazing gift of sonship being freely given by HIS GRACE and we receive it all by our faith.
Let us move to a new concept that was just introduced to us. This new concept is called “labor” and it is what the woman in Revelation 12 is described to be doing.
5. LABORING TOGETHER WITH AND FOR CHRIST
It is very important to know that when a woman is in travail producing a new child, she is said to be in “labor”. Uh oh? This is just another random coincidence, isn’t it? Absolutely not! There are many verses in the letters written to the church that describe us (the church) working laboriously and painstakingly for our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. Uh oh? Notice what Jesus said about this subject in Matthew:
Mat 9:37 Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;
Here we have Jesus speaking to the foundational church members of the Body of Christ. Jesus was focused upon the great need of so many people that needed to come to know HIM! He is making a prophetical statement concerning a future spiritual harvest of saved human spirits (James 5:7), and their saved souls (James 1:21).
However, He is expressly declaring the need for many “laborers” to accomplish this. Wow, this is amazing when you see how this is connected to Revelation 12, and the woman that is laboring in travail. In fact, you may already can see it, since we have already found where Paul was travailing in labor in Galatians 4, to give birth to Messiah, in the people coming into the church. This work of God is certainly sharing the Gospel good news with other people and sowing spiritual seeds to produce new spiritual fruit. Notice this verse next:
1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
Wow, again we see the concept of workers in labor together with God. As a Christian, we were created in CHRIST to do works for God (Ephesians 2:10). We do this with Him, because He lives in us to help. Notice the term husbandry to define the church, because this will come again in the next section. This means we are God’s spiritual garden on the earth.
God further calls us His physical building on the earth. The building corresponds with us being His temple that we saw earlier. The LORD is using multiple natural concepts to help us to understand how the spirit realm was created and is operating today. What we are discovering is the spiritual concept of Christians that perform labor for God is the spiritual realization of the natural description of a woman in Revelation 12 in labor.
This is becoming such an accurate picture of the woman in Revelation 12, that it can’t be denied. Can you begin to see the new spiritual perspective, of how this woman was given to us by the Holy Spirit using natural realities can fit with what we are doing in the church today? Can you understand, how excited I was to hear from God at 3 AM to receive this information?
Women could describe the experience of giving birth so much better than I could. But one noticeable feature of the process is the pain. This can result in loud outcries. Another observable quality of giving birth, is that the woman’s labor pains become more and more frequent, and closer together and they usually increase in intensity as the ending finale birth comes. Did any of this sound like what might happen before Jesus comes to take us out of the world and our labors to get people saved?
Can you potentially see that persecution from the world, has been increasing in intensity and come more frequently? If you have not, then you are not laboring for God’s cause. We need to see what else the Bible says about laboring, to take us into the next phase of the revelation.
1Co 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
1Co 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
Notice these verses are using natural farming concepts. But farming is also an analogous concept to having a natural child in birth. Both of these subjects are parallel natural realities projecting information about the spiritual birth process that Paul was describing in his letter to the church.
The spiritual birth process is based upon the principle of “seed”, “time” and “harvest”. Wow that was a lot to process. But notice the ending statement in 1 Corinthians 3:8 is about each worker in the church receiving a reward for doing their labor. Wow, is that not more than amazing, with us seeing the woman in Revelation 12 being in labor? Connect this back to the Galatians 4 example of the labor with Paul working to get Christ the Messiah formed in the church in Galatia. Please tell me that you are seeing this. If any of this is registering on your spirit, leave a comment to help encourage others.
Remember in Revelation 12, we had a woman wearing a victorious royal crown. Could this be a part of her reward for enduring her spiritual labors for CHRIST? I personally believe this is a part of the reward as we can see from 2 Timothy 4:8, to name just one example. We need to move on to the next subject. Now we are going to add a new spiritual dimension to connect us to what is happening to the church and parallel to what is described about the woman in Revelation 12.
6. THE PRECIOUS FRUIT OF THE EARTH
We have been learning new spiritual God perspectives that come from the Word of God to understand the natural descriptions about a woman in Revelation 12. So far, we have discovered that the woman is standing on the devil in a position of victory in Revelation 12:1. We have also seen she is wearing a royal victor crown as a symbol of her reward for victory. We have also learned that she is wearing Jesus, the Sun of Righteousness as her clothing revealing to us her position of authority being IN CHRIST (Romans 5:17). This new information confirms that she is a spiritual being and her identity can only be the church.
But we are now beginning to see in Revelation 12:2, that she is pregnant and travailing to give birth to a spiritual Messiah in the hearts of people that are becoming new-born believers. We have also seen how this process begins to correlate together of her enduring signs of crying, travailing, being pained, waiting for the birthing full process to come to completion. We learned this could certainly be the combined natural and spiritual process of how the church “labors” in the world, for Christ to minister by spreading God’s Word (Seed), into the hearts of unbelievers, to get others saved out of the world of our spiritual enemy. Please realize that this time of completion for laboring for Christ, is soon coming to an end.
But now, let us think about the natural birth process to help us understand what else God could be teaching us from the spiritual process of producing a natural child by receiving His Seed in our hearts. Do you know what this natural and spiritual concept of childbirth, is referred to as, in the Bible? You are about to find out that it is called “producing fruit”. If you did not already know this, please get your spiritual eyes opened to what the Holy Spirit is about to say. Let us begin by reading a verse in James:
Jas 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
We were introduced to this topic in the previous sections. Notice this verse is about the coming of the LORD. This coming has to be for the catching away of His church bride. If this is the woman in Revelation 12, it is our hoped for “deliverance” from the world. Notice that this verse is speaking of God being a gardener, who has planted a lot of seed, and is waiting very patiently to produce something that is good for harvesting. Wow, did that turn on any lights in your mind and spirit? If not, Satan must have you very blinded with his darkness (2 Cor 4:4).
This verse in James is speaking of people. This is the only thing that is precious enough to cause God to wait and endure all of the evil of the world. God is looking for “precious fruit” to harvest. This fruit came first from Jesus sowing the Word in our hearts as taught to us in the Parable of the Sower. From God’s perspective, the end outcome of planting any of His good Seed is to produce good fruit, in the hearts of humans.
We confirmed in 1 Corinthians 3:5-8, that it is the church that has been assigned this responsibility to continue the sowing, and watering process to produce fruit in humans. Remember what Paul said in Galatians 4? “My little children, of whom I travail in birth again, until Christ be formed in you”. I believe sincerely that Paul was travailing, and waiting for these carnal Christians to become fruitful and to be on the path of spiritual maturity. Why do I say this? Because this “fruit” is what God is waiting for in James to harvest.
Now, here is another truth that helps to confirm this belief that this pregnant woman in Revelation is pregnant spiritually indicating she has produced a lot of fruit, and is waiting to be delivered. Let us remember Jesus’ natural birth to help us better understand this spiritual birthing process being described in Revelation 12.
Luke 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
Do you see how Elizabeth described the unborn natural baby Messiah child, that was in the belly of the virgin Mary? She called her baby inside her physical womb, to be her “fruit”. Wow, this is God revealing an amazing parallel concept between the natural and the spiritual ability to produce “fruit” from planted seed. It is very obvious that a natural child is called a woman’s fruit of her womb. God is again using natural farming concepts to describe the natural birthing process, and this means both of these are teaching us hidden spiritual concepts about fruit, that we cannot see with our natural eyes.
It is very interesting to remember what Jesus said about fruit in Matthew 7:15-16. God in the flesh who we see waiting and wanting to harvest the precious fruit of the earth in James, informs us that we will be able to determine who is real and who is fake by examining their fruits. What is He speaking of? It is NOT apples, cherries, or apricots. God is saying if what they say is a blessing to produce a new-birth in some other human, this will be a sign of their external fruit. By observing their labors to produce fruit, you will know if they are real Christians.
Let us go back to the Parable of the Sower again. In this parable that Jesus taught us, He said He was the Sower and He came to sow the Word of God! The soil in this natural to spiritual parable was the heart/spirit of a human. The parable compares soil (human spirit) types, differentiating between those that produced fruit and those that do not produce any harvestable fruit.
Matching this information with other parables, and the verse we just read in James about God being the ultimate farmer, waiting for fruit, we know that those that produce fruit belong to God, and those that do not produce fruit, must belong to the evil one, Satan. This is revealed more clearly by the parable of the wheat and tares (Matthew 13:24-35). The wheat is harvested into the barns of God, and tares are burned in the fires of hell.
Now we have determined there are two types of people in the world. Those that belong to God and produce fruit to be harvested and those that belong to Satan that are called weeds that are eternally separated from God. But applying this to what we have just learned we know the woman in Revelation 12 has fruit in her womb. We should now understand that the womb is soil of the spiritual heart of a human. The spiritual fruits that are produced in the spirit, represent a human’s good works for the kingdom of God, and the fruits of the spirit (Gal 5:22).
It is very interesting to see how in Galatians 5, this was God’s selected location to discuss and define “fruit” directly after chapter 4. In this chapter 5 spiritual comparison we find the differences between producing good versus evil fruits. This is definitely applicable to what we have been learning. Do you believe this is just a coincidence? It cannot be! This is just a confirming method of God’s intelligent spiritual design.
Finally, notice that a woman that is unable to bear fruit in her womb is called “barren”. This is also discussed in Galatians 4, but we don’t have the time to go into this part of the deeper lesson. Please just notice the fact that the woman being in travail in Revelation 12, has the visible evidence of having produced fruit in her spirit (the spiritual womb and soil) of God’s Garden (Genesis 2:8). This is the location of where His WORD was planted as a seed to produce “fruit”. Wow, that is an amazing new way of viewing the woman in Revelation 12. Can you see it?
We need to wrap this lesson up quickly. We have been receiving the “Seed” of God into our spirits, while studying this subject. What we need to remember, is that in the natural process of childbirth, there is usually always a “deliverer” involved to catch the baby. This has occurred this way in every normal natural childbirth since Adam and Eve. This deliver is usually, a mid-wife, doctor, or nurse, or they could be the spouse’s husband. I believe the husband Joseph was the deliverer of Mary. But in the spirit realm this person who delivers the church, is definitely the LORD Jesus Christ.
What we find in Revelation 12, is two connected verses concerning the pregnant woman on this subject of delivery and an implied deliverer. In verse 2 and verse 4 God mentions the woman is waiting to be delivered. This is the Greek word G5088. This word has a very amazing definition that corresponds to what we have been learning about. Let us review the Strong’s definition:
G5088 to produce (from seed, as a mother, a plant, the earth, etc.), literal or figurative: – bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail.
This Greek word contains a double wow factor. This only means it applies to the literal natural and to the spiritual by figurative application. Notice this word applies to natural things being produced from physical seeds. This included a human mother (woman), a tree, a plant, etc. including the earth’s natural soil. All of these are naturally created realities that parallel the spiritual realm. Notice the spiritual woman in Revelation 12, is travailing in labor awaiting to be delivered. How does this apply to anything for the spiritual church? A lot of light bulbs should be illuminating in your spirit all of the sudden from this new description. Please let us read these verses and analyze them in the NEW light of what we are seeing in Revelation 12.
Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
These verses are obviously speaking of the physical man Jesus, with Him being referred to as one of His physical human titles the “Son of Adam”. As the risen Jesus departed from the earth in Acts 1 for a cloud to receive Him, He will also be returning in like manner from a cloud. But this return is for the catching away of His bride, as spoken about in the Parable of the 10 virgins (Matthew 25:1).
Jesus was teaching in this context about the signs of the times for His return. Please pay attention to the last command. Jesus speaking to His followers, told them when you see these things, “look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is very near”. Now look up the word “redemption” and see how Strong defines G629 as being a “deliverance”. This is another amazing parallel to the woman in Revelation 12 being pregnant.
Every time a woman experiences pregnancy, she goes from not being outwardly seen as pregnant, to being obviously seen to even be called big or great in her pregnancy. Or another way to look at it, is to say her delivery day is “drawing near”. The Greek word G1448 that was translated as “drawing near” is also defined as “soon approaching”. Consider what this is saying about the potential of a birth in Revelation 12.
If this woman is the spiritual church, and being delivered of this child represents the rapture, by God using naturally coded symbolic terms, this should dramatically change how we are to view what is being revealed. We should be able to see from God’s perspective, that this description of the woman in Revelation 12, could be a detailed view of the end-time church and the rapture event, followed by the mention of the people that have repented and were saved after the rapture.
It is just so essential to see that the Greek word G726, that was translated as “caught up” in Revelation 12:5, speaking of the child after He was delivered, is the word “harpazo”. It is this exact word that is used by God to describe the rapture event in 1 Thessalonians:
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
No place in the New Testament, is this Greek word “Harpazo” used to describe the physical risen from the dead man Jesus, being taken up to heaven. The absence of Jesus being taken as man and not as a baby, and the church being “caught up” to heaven to be with the LORD, are two amazing confirmations to the woman in Revelation 12 being the church.
Also, the Greek word G4536 that is translated as “trump” in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 announcing the rapture event, is the exact same word used by God to catch John up to heaven in Revelation 4:1. This is just another major connecting force, that cannot be denied. This would teach us that the woman’s labor of the child coming to completion, is the same event of deliverance that is being described in Revelation 4:1, and 1 Thessalonians 4:17.
It is highly recommended that you go search the New Testament and look for all of the verses that has anything to do with deliverance, or a deliverer. We should all know that the deliverer of the Church is Christ. There are also other key Greek words that mean to be delivered, like the woman in Revelation 12 is waiting for. These include “redemption”, “redeem”, “save”, “salvation”, and “savior”. Of course, there are many forms of these words and others that could not be mentioned today. But all of these confirm the spiritual truth, that the Church body of Christ, is a woman waiting to be fully delivered. For example, please remember this one:
Tit 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
As you can read in Titus 2:13, the church is waiting for out savior Jesus Christ. The Greek word G4990 translated as “Savior” literally means a “deliverer”. That is what we could also call a person that is catching up a baby in a hospital. Wow, I don’t know how anyone can deny what the Holy Spirit is teaching today.
But notice again, that this day of deliverance is called a blessed expectation event. Again, we see a woman who is expecting to be delivered. The Greek word G1680 is the word translated as “hope”, and this word means “expectation of something good”. It can also be defined as a feeling of “pleasurable anticipation”. What this is describing occurs when a normal husband sees his wife after a long time of separation, and vice versa, the wife’s feeling for the appearance of her husband after a long separation, like a long trip. WOW!
I believe the woman in Revelation 12 represents the church from what the LORD has shown us. I believe the process of childbirth, represent every person that was, and is being born-again by planting seed in the hearts of unbelievers. I believe the growing child in the spiritual womb of the woman, represents the spiritual body of Christ growing to completion to be taken up to heaven. Therefore, I believe the woman’s final birth of the child is the completion of the church age. This soon coming completion or fulfilment of the 2 day or the 2000-year period of the church (2 Peter 3:8), is where God ends the current ongoing time of GRACE for salvation. After this God will return to the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy to finalize His dealings, with another woman named natural Israel, for one week of years. If this is correct which I believe the scripture is teaching us, then the rapture is represented by the child’s finale birth in Revelation 12. This is why the child is immediately caught up into heaven and to the throne of God after the final birth has occurred.
In other words, the spiritual growth and birth process of the CHRIST child has been fulfilled and it is time for her to be taken up (Romans 11:25). The laboring has been accomplished. The birthing has been finalized. The woman has been brought to full safety and protection in heaven and the marriage supper of the LAMB can be celebrated. This would help us to understand how the description of the woman in Revelation 12:1, begins with a sight of a woman “appearing” in heaven. These words mean someone in the spiritual realm was looking on with wide open eyes viewing someone in heaven that was called very remarkable. Who else can this be but the body of Christ that the prophets and righteous men desired to see being fulfilled in total completion (Matthew 13:17)?
We have covered a lot in this lesson, and it has gone into so much new spiritual information that it is probably good to end now. Hopefully, the Holy Spirit has given you a lot of good spiritual meat to chew on for a long time. What God has taught us, is to look for His ways of understanding natural things so that we can apply them in the spiritual realm and find truth to see what He has prophesied in the book of Revelation. One question comes to mind that will mentioned in this discussion of a woman who is expecting deliverance. When will this occur? We can begin to learn this in this verse:
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
As you can see God is speaking of the natural nation of Israel, and comparing them, to be separated from the largely spiritual Gentile church body of Christ. God calls His church a mystery, but He has been revealing us, with increased intensity in these last days. But notice in the last phrase of the verse. God indicates that there is coming a “fulness” to the Gentiles.
Now notice what the Greek word G4138 that was translated as “fulness” means. This word means “something that is filled as a place, a container, a time period, etc.”. Think of this in the terms of a pregnant woman. There is a limited capacity inside the womb. There is also a set time for delivery where her body just says I’m ready. God says in Matthew 24:36, that no man knows the exact day or hour of this event of Jesus coming to deliver us. But we all can see the signs and seasons, and know how close we are to this happening. I guarantee you, that it is closer than you think!
You should have a lot of take aways from this lesson. We were not able to answer every question, or go into every verse. This would definitely require many lessons to cover it all comprehensively. But remember the natural birth process of a woman, and a seed planted in a garden, should cause us to better understand what is happening in the unseen spiritual realm.
A child represents fruit using natural to spiritual symbolism. But it also represents the Spirit of Christ the Messiah being birthed inside humans to grow the church. Therefore, we have learned how the woman qualifies to be taken up into the spiritual realm of heaven to appear before God in Revelation 12:1 and 4:1.
There are multiple ways to react to what you have just learned? You can reject it completely or partially. You can also accept it partially or completely. If you have heard this taught before, I would love to hear about it and where it was shared. If you have never heard about this before, please share it with every Christian you know, if the Holy Spirit inside of you agrees with it. If not, that is OK, please just share why you feel something was not peaceful. No matter what, thank you for reading the lesson.
If you have any feedback, questions, or comments please leave them. They are greatly appreciated and encouraging. If you need prayer for any need, it is also nice to receive these requests. We will certainly pray if we are able to agree with you scripturally, and the request does not violate the written word of God according to His will for your life. We love you all very much no matter who you believe the Revelation 12 woman is. We hope and pray you will love us also. Love NEVER Fails!
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THE TRUE IDENTITY OF THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12 Pt 8 – Why the Church Pt 1
(Ver 1.0) This is now “Part 8” in the extremely advanced Bible study series of lessons revealing, “The True Identity of the woman in Revelation 12”. If you have not read this series from the beginning, there is a lot of details already covered that will only be taught in a climatic summary form in this lesson. This lesson may be good information for people who like the bottom line and not all of the details. Also note that this lesson will be divided into two parts. Today we will cover the review of mainly Revelation 12:1, with some added new insights from a slightly different viewed perspective. Then in the next part (the LORD willing), there will be a lot of new spiritual information that many are awaiting to see that were hidden in Revelation 12:2. You certainly may continue reading Part 8 and Part 9 independently if desired, however, if you would like to read the series from the beginning please go to “Part 1”.
First a warning, this series was written for spiritually mature Christians. For those that are newly born or younger Christians, you may want to go study some more basic Bible foundational subjects before trying to digest some deep eschatological study that may be hard to swallow. This decision could possibly help you not to be offended at what will be a very deep spiritual subject filled with complex spiritual information and application, about a highly controversial topic. Thank you for judging yourself before continuing.
This series was first shared with me through the Holy Spirit, over 12 years ago and it was published in 2009. It has been undated numerous times to bring added revelation and clarity. If you have read the entire series and made it to this lesson, you should be commended, because you are like one of the Acts 17:11 Christians, that Paul said were more noble Bible students than those in the Thessalonica church. This verse reveals that there are two types of Christians, those that are mature and those that are very carnal and immature. Which one you choose to be, is normally determined by your amount of love you receive and release from God, your deep knowledge of His Word, and the length of time and amount of spiritual growth experienced as a Christian.
This has been one of the most loved or hated Bible lessons that I have been given by God to share with the body of Christ. Those with spiritually mature pure hearts, begin to love it after understanding what God is saying to us. But the immature baby Christians, who are set in their ways, believing they understand the Bible in totality, they hate this spiritual information. This is what Paul faced in the book of Galatians, when he said, “Have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?”. It is very interesting that this was written by God in Galatians chapter 4 and this will be one of the primary-focuses of this Bible lesson today.
Recently, I received a nice and very spiritually mature comment with a question from a faithful reader. This was a confirmation from the Holy Spirit that I was to do this lesson. I had already felt led by the Holy Spirit to teach this subject again, and God confirmed it by this question. The reader’s question was:
“May I seek some clarification about your understanding of the woman in Rev. 12? You say she depicts the church, however the church didn’t give birth to the Messiah, Israel did so I would be very interested to hear why you believe as you do. Thank you again.”?
That was a great question, asked in a respectful way. We should pray that more people ask questions, rather than to call people heretics for a teaching of things that they do not yet understand. It appears that the question is based on popular teachings within the church majority. The belief that the woman is Israel originates from several descriptions that appear on the surface of the text in Revelation 12. First, the child is caught up to heaven and said to rule all nations with a rod of iron. This is taught to be the risen from the dead Jesus Christ. While this does sound like Jesus, notice that Jesus never did get caught up to heaven, as a freshly born baby child, as is described in Revelation 12. That is one of the first obvious problems with us claiming this child is the Messiah Jesus.
The next problem is this child is taken up by force using the Greek Word “harpozo” (G726), that describes a sudden snatching by forced departure, like is described as the rapture event in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, and 1 Corinthians 15:52. If you can, please find us a verse that describes Jesus ever being taken to heaven exactly in this manner?
Therefore, we have just reviewed two significant text problems with us making this woman appear to be Israel or Mary and the child being the physical Jesus. But people still believe this is the physical Jesus anyway. We must however learn to pay attention to every detail that we can find. God did not write things using words and descriptions that were not important. Make a note that whoever this is, this child is taken up to be with God in heaven by forced departure and it happens as they are a fairly young immature child.
Next, the woman is surrounded with three objects, the sun, the moon and the stars, and these three objects appear in the dream of Joseph in Genesis 37 that use these symbols to describe Jacob’s family of Israel. This was where 11 stars bowed, with the sun and the moon to worship the 12th star. Jacob interpreted the dream to mean the sun was himself, the moon was Rachel, and the 11 stars were all the brothers of Joseph who was the star that everyone bowed down to worship.
This mention of 12 stars, a sun and a moon in Revelation 12:1, represents another major cause for most to jump to the conclusion that this has to be the natural nation of Israel. Almost every past and modern Bible teacher has jumped to this conclusion without performing a deep study of the subject. They simply teach that this woman is natural Israel and the child is the baby Jesus born in a manger, who had been sent into the world, to become the Messiah (the Christ). If that is true, please apply the interpretation of Jacob to how these symbols are used in Revelation 12 specifically by the Holy Spirit’s leading.
How could a woman who is pregnant that people call Israel, be clothed with Jacob? I thought Jacob was named Israel? This is just one of the major problems. We might be able to stretch or twist a verse to make this claim of Israel being clothed with Israel, but we really need a Bible verse that interprets it this way. Remember what the Lord said through 2 Peter 1:20 “No prophecy is of any private interpretation”. This simply teaches the law of self-interpretation of the Bible. This means the Bible interprets the Bible, and my opinion or yours does not matter.
The next major contradiction and disqualification for the woman in Revelation 12 to be Israel, is the position of the moon under the feet of the woman. If the lady in Revelation 12 is Israel, the moon must represent Rachel, and she is been walked upon as an enemy, defeated and conquered by this symbolic woman in Revelation 12. Jacob informed Joseph very clearly that the moon in his dream represented his mother in Genesis 37:10. Therefore, if we use this dream to interpret the woman in Revelation 12, we MUST also use and apply the interpretation of the dream to understand all of the words in Revelation 12. These are major problems, and they are totally ignored by every Bible teacher that wants to believe this woman is Israel.
This is a very common and popular teaching and it is one possible interpretation using selective surface reading of the text in Revelation 12. But it may be based upon a very carnal human reasoning with the joining together of scriptures that do not actually go together. Right there, that statement could make a lot of pastors, theologians, and Bible students very upset. Some get so angry that they write the nastiest and most hate filled comments that you can imagine. This type of response does nothing but to prove their immature carnality. Love does not name call, and love does not speak evil of others, even if they disagree with your beliefs.
Today we will cover only verse 1 of Revelation 12. We will call this Part 1 of the summary and unveiling. Then in the next lesson, the LORD willing, we will cover verse 2 in significant detail.
WHY NOT NATURAL ISRAEL?
In this lesson series, we have gone through many logical, comprehensive, and wide-ranging truthful Biblical reasons why this woman and this child cannot be Israel and the physical baby Jesus Christ. If you have read the entire series, you should be able to list some of them. Let us quickly review a few:
- The angel of God showing the vision to John, said everything after Revelation 4:1, must occur in the future beyond when John saw the vision and wrote the book of Revelation. This book was written a long time after the birth, life, death, burial, resurrection, and ascension of the LORD JESUS. Therefore, this disqualifies the woman to be Mary, and Israel and the child to be Jesus the physical Messiah.
- The next most important reason, is that Jesus said in John 3:3, that which is born of spirit is spirit and that which is born of flesh is flesh. This is a law of God’s design. This forces the mother and child to be either flesh birthing only flesh or spirit birthing only spirit. This disqualifies Israel from being the woman because she was a combined spiritual wife made up of many physical humans in the Old Covenant (Jer 31:32). The woman and the child appear to be both spiritual beings in Revelation 12 and neither Mary or the natural nation of Israel ever gave birth to a spiritual child.
- What did we find that the Sun represents in the woman’s clothing? This is ignored in the Israel and baby Jesus’ interpretation completely. We have found this Sun is a symbol of Jesus the Sun of Righteousness (Mal 4:2). Who then is clothed with Jesus? Was it the natural nation of Israel or Mary? The church is clearly told to put on Christ in the New Covenant (Rom 13:14, Gal 3:27).
- What does the moon represent? And what does it mean to be standing on this object? We have discovered from the Bible the moon represents the ruler of the darkness and this has to be Satan (Eph 6:12). We also have found verses that anyone that is underfoot, has been defeated (Ps 44:5, Ps 91:13, Mal 4:3, Lk 10:19). Has Israel defeated the ruler of the darkness? Has Mary defeated the ruler of the darkness? If not, they are disqualified to be valid interpretations. We will be discussing parts of these subjects as we move forward.
- Let us consider one more reason, that may have not been taught before enough. The woman in Revelation 12 appears in heaven. This describes that she is spiritual at her appearance. Has the natural nation of Israel appeared spiritually in heaven? Can the natural nation of Israel appear in heaven without being saved through Jesus Christ? Not according to Jesus. Jesus said in John 3:3, except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God. Then in John 14:23 Jesus said, “No man comes to the Father, but by me”. The only legal way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. This disqualifies the natural nation of Israel from a heavenly appearance, unless they receive Jesus.
These were just 5 major disqualifications for the woman in Revelation 12 to be viewed as the natural nation of Israel, or the physical virgin Mary, and for their child said to be the physical baby Jesus born in Bethlehem. What we are about to discover and confirm is that the church does give birth to Christ, but not in the form of a physical baby in a manger. That will probably shock a lot of people, but this concept was already introduced to you in the updated “Part 5” of the series. I pray you were able to read this first. If you are ready to begin this spiritual insightful view of the woman in Revelation 12, let us please get started.
GOD’S SPIRITUAL VIEW
OF REVELATION 12 REVEALED
We will now begin to allow the Holy Spirit to reveal His higher spiritual messages that are desired to be taught to us from these verses about a pregnant woman found in Revelation 12. Please stop and pray the prayer in Ephesians 1:17-23, before continuing. In this prayer Paul asked for the church to be given a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of HIM! Who is HIM? It is the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Then Paul prays and asks God to give the church (us) the spiritual eyes of understanding for enlightenment to see what God has accomplished and given to us in Christ. Paul is simply asking the Holy Spirit inside of the church to illuminate our spirits to be able to comprehend what God has provided to us in Jesus Christ. Please believe that God has heard and answered this prayer and you will be able to receive more of these deep hidden spiritual concepts about Christ. Ok, now let us continue.
Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Jesus gives us a “key to understanding” a great portion of the book of Revelation. This is because God has written the book of Revelation using vast patterns of natural symbolic objects that reveal unseen spiritual entities and realities. God also has used numerous naturally created systems and methods, like childbirth to teach us about complex spiritual truths. In this verses Jesus reveals that there is a significant difference between earthly things and heavenly things. But then Jesus indicates that by us understanding these natural things, it will greatly assist us in understanding invisible heavenly things. We confirm this truth of Jesus in the book of Romans:
Romans 1:20, “For the invisible things of God from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood from the things that were made, even God’s eternal power and Godhead.”
Did you understand what God said? The Creator God declares we are able to understand the hidden and unseen qualities of the divine Godhead, because we can learn them from naturally created objects, systems, patterns, and laws, etc. That is what we are going to do today. We are going to go through the naturally created symbolic objects and descriptions and then use these with the Bible to understand the hidden messages that God is trying to teach us in these last days.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Let us begin by listing the qualities and descriptions of the woman in Revelation 12 verse 1. Take note that the Greek word G3700 translated as “appeared”, means to look with eyes wide open at something remarkable as if in shock and awe. Now read the list of important subjects:
- There was a great wonder woman that suddenly appeared in heaven.
- She was clothed in the Sun.
- Standing with the moon under her feet.
- Wearing a crown of 12 stars.
We will not go into tremendous detail, but we will take each, one by one.
THE SUDDEN APPEARANCE
OF A GREAT WONDER WOMAN IN HEAVEN
What do these words and symbols teach us?
- This appearance of a woman in heaven causes us to logically conclude she is a spiritual being, in order to be found existing in heaven. This causes us to ask how and when she appeared.
- Remember that a woman (wife) in a relationship with God always represents a covenant partnership. We can learn this in several verses, but research Jeremiah 31:32, and Matthew 9:15 to see two references.
- This statement implies that this woman was previously a physical reality upon the earth, before she was taken into heaven.
- Therefore, we can conclude that God/Jesus must have taken this woman up to be with Him at the throne. Does this sound like a type of rapture? We will find more evidence coming to support this view soon.
- Also, this statement implies this woman’s appearance in heaven was because she is considered righteous and not of the kingdom of darkness. We will see this more clearly when we look again at her clothing.
A WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN
We have already covered this subject extensively. Please recall what this SUN represents to God.
- In spiritual terms, being clothed with any object, means to be endued with its power. We learn this many places, including Elijah’s mantle being passed to Elisha in 2 Kings 2:14. Jesus speaking to the church told His disciples to tarry in Jerusalem until they were “endued” with power from on high. The Greek word G1736 that is translated as “endued”, means to be clothed with. The sun in the sky certainly qualifies as a high heavenly object. The sun is also the closest great power source for all life on our planet. We learned this sun represents Jesus “the Sun of Righteousness” that rises with healing in His wings, in Malachi 4:2.
- We can confirm from Malachi 4:2 that wearing the Sun of God represents being clothed in His righteousness. We can confirm the church is clothed in His righteousness in verses like Ephesians 4:22.
THE MOON UNDER HER FEET
We have also covered this subject extensively. The first mention of the moon is found in Genesis 1 and is called the lesser light. Genesis 1:16 informs us that “the lesser light”, also called the moon rules the night (darkness). This heavenly object depicts the evil being Satan who rules the darkness of this world (Eph 6:12).
- Standing upon the symbolic moon symbol of Satan depicts the picture of victory over Him by a woman. God informs Joshua in Joshua 1:3, “everywhere the soles of your feet tread, I have given to you”. This means this woman was fighting a battle and she won the wars like Joshua.
- We know this represents the church because Jesus told us in Luke 10:19, “Behold I give you power to tread upon serpents (devils) and scorpions (demons) and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing by any means shall hurt you.” These words apply to Jesus’ believers.
- In Romans 16:20, God promises to bruise the serpent Satan under the feet of the church (New Covenant Bride) very soon. It has been almost 2000 years since this was written and it is time for it to be fulfilled.
- God promises the church to be “overcomers” in the New Covenant. Overcoming signifies someone who has been raised up above someone else in power and authority by their enemy’s defeat.
A CROWN ON HER HEAD
This is another great symbol that reveals the truth of victory for the woman. This confirms the fact that she is standing on the moon (Satan), with the moon (Satan) under her feet, and the moon (Satan) has been “overcome” and defeated. Review what God says to the church in this verse:
1Co 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.
1Co 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.
God our LORD and savior informs us that we are in a race. But ours is not a physical endurance contest. Rather, our run is in a spiritual endurance contest. Our opponent and enemy is a spiritual being named Lucifer and Satan. God informs us in Revelation 12 we win this race. The exact same Greek word is spoken here that was found in Revelation 12:1. This is a run that we will win over Satan, and our crown of victory will be the incorruptible kind of eternal victory. Are you an overcomer? Why not? Jesus tells how we overcome Him in this chapter 12 that we are studying about:
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
We can clearly read and see there are two things that cause the church to be standing on the moon (Satan). The most essential piece is the Blood of the Lamb of God, our spiritual husband. The second is our participation by speaking the Word of God out loud to bring our testimony to bare upon Satan’s head and put him under our feet through exercising the authority that Jesus gave to us (Lk 10:19, Mat 28:18-19).
If anyone needs additional convincing that God’s desired plan for your life is to overcome your enemy, please read verses like these:
- Romans 5:17
- Romans 12:21
- 1 Corinthians 15:57
- 2 Corinthians 2:14
- 1 John 2:13-14
- 1 John 4:4
- 1 John 5:4-5
- Revelation 2:7, 11, 17, 26
- Revelation 3:5, 12, 21
For the final part of the review of the crown, we must remember that wearing a crown, is a sign of kingship and royalty. The church is called a “royal (kingly) priesthood” in 1 Peter 2:9. The church is said to “reign (as a king) in life, by one Jesus Christ” in Romans 5:17. Then in Revelation 19:16 Jesus is called the KING of kings. If you are not reigning over Satan now with the LORD’s help, it is past time to get started.
We have only started to see just some of the spiritual truths that the Spirit of God desires us to learn and know. In the next lesson we get into some things that the Holy Spirit spoke with me about at 3 am in the morning. These things were very revealing to show His perspectives of Revelation 12:2.
We pray that everyone will come back for the next lesson, with eager anticipation and hunger to see what God says to us all. If you love the Word of God, as much as I do, I know you will. Please share the lesson series with your mature spiritual friends. Also leave a comment or question, if you feel led by the Spirit to do so. Thank you for praying for us. We greatly appreciate your support with your intercessory prayer. You have no idea how the enemy is trying to silence this website completely. Thank you for standing strong in and with us and the LORD. We love you very much, whether you agree or disagree with what has been taught. God bless you all very much. Always in His abundant love and Grace!
If you would like to continue reading in this awesome God given series, please go to “Part 9” now.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 4
(Ver 2.4) This is Part 4 in a very advanced Bible study series on the Book of Revelation concerning chapter 12 and the True Identity of the Woman. This woman was described by God with a crown of 12 stars, clothed in the Sun and standing with her feet on the moon. We have covered so very much important information on this subject already. There is absolutely no way that I can teach it again today. Therefore I would strongly recommend, if you have not read from the beginning that you stop and begin your study with “Part 1“.
INTRODUCTION AND QUICK REVIEW
I knew this subject would take a lot of effort to get people to begin to understand it and accept it. The main reason for this resistance is that I have never heard anyone else teach the chapter this way. We have been using very important new Bible revelations that are focused upon 6 key symbolic elements that surrounded the woman. These were the crown on her heard, the sun as clothing on her body and the moon that was found under her feet.
This is now the fourth lesson on the subject in the search for the true identity of the woman in Revelation 12. There are so many diverse opinions to who this symbolic woman in Revelation 12 represents and all of these can produce a presupposition that can become a mental stronghold. These prejudices can be used by Satan to block any new information from entering our human mind. Any previous knowledge on a subject can potentially produce a state of human “bias”. “Prejudice and bias is a human condition that occurs when someone is prejudging someone or somethings before all of the facts are given, known and understood.
For example, many people today hate the Jewish people and most of these haters have never really even met a Jewish person and talked with them. That is usually one form of racial prejudice, injustice and bias that is easily utilized by Satan due to our ignorance of not knowing the full truth. This type of hatred must have been passed down from someone’s parents, or from teachers, or from other groups of influence that we associate with. This type of prejudice does not come from birth or from God. Almost every little child if raised in a good family without prejudice, will like everyone regardless of their gender, race, education or whatever. But, this open early attitude of like and trust can change when someone does or says something evil to us personally. Then there can come a new problem of thinking that everyone that is similar to them, is the exact same type of evil. This is called lumping everyone of the same type of category to be all equally good or evil with knowing any of them very well. What a complex world we live in.
There is really so much more to explore on this subject of the woman in Revelation 12. We have only touched on a few of the subjects and there are so many more questions to ask and answer. Why is the woman pregnant? Who is the child? Why does she appear in heaven first in verse 1 before any other description? I try to write and teach using progressive revelation, where truth builds upon truth. This means if you missed the beginning lessons you missed the foundation to all the other building blocks. I don’t claim to have all of the answers, but I’ll tell you what I do know and we will trust the Spirit of God to answer the questions that have not yet been answered.
In Part 1 we focused on the answering the question of when these events occur and found God said they are in the future. We continued to study and discovered the identity of the “Sun” clothing to be Jesus Christ the ruler of the Kingdom of Light. We have also found why this woman is clothed with the Sun. Then in Parts 2 and 3 we talked about the moon being the ruler of the darkness, a kingdom that is directly opposed to God’s kingdom of light. Then we looked at the specific meaning of how the moon is found in relation to the woman as being under her feet. I believe this is so very important to understand what this means.
I have shown scriptures that spoke about the church bruising the head of the serpent (Satan). I talked about Jesus delegating His authority to the church to tread on (walk on or over) the serpent (Luke 10:19) who we know is Satan (Rev 12:9). I then showed how Jesus today is seated at the right hand of Majesty in heaven, still waiting for all of His enemies to be made His footstool (Acts 2:35, Heb 1:13). All of these are scriptural references, patterns and pointers that God uses to help us identify the woman in Revelation 12. Today we are going to go into more detail concerning how the books of Genesis and Revelation are divinely designed to be connected bookends. We were introduced to this concept previously. But since this is a potentially new concept, I believe we need more information and that requires a deeper study. Let us get started.
GOD’S GENESIS AND REVELATION CONNECTIONS
I want to readdress some things that were potentially new to some people. Previously, I talked about the “seed of the woman” found in Genesis 3:15 as possibly being a spiritual seed and the woman being a prophesied picture of the church. Today in this lesson, I want to teach some things that I believe the Lord has taught me on this subject that could potentially help us to see some things from a new and fresh spiritual perspective. These are absolutely fascinating and completely related to our subject of the identity of the woman as being related to the Genesis 3-woman prophecy. This is why I called this section “God’s Genesis and Revelation Connections”.
In Revelation 12, the very first verse is focused upon our suspect mystery woman in question. But we can also see and know that the very last verse 17 is about the same woman. In fact, it is very important to see that at least 10 of the 17 verses of Revelation 12 mention the woman directly. She and the dragon are the two primary subjects.
Also, note that there is a new truth that I did teach you before. The Greek word that occurs in 10 verses in Revelation 12 for “woman” is G1135 and yes, it is correctly translated as woman. But it is normally associated to be a married woman called a “wife”. Ok, you may think that this does not really help us that much because after all, the woman is pregnant. And all of our suspect women candidates were all married wives. But I still feel like this is important to study.
From this information we learn that this woman in Revelation 12 is not an unmarried woman or more specifically not a virgin. Or we could say more positively that she is a woman in covenant with a man. Finally, notice that this Greek word G1135 translated as woman in Revelation 12 is again used in Revelation 19 to describe the Lamb’s wife. But this time the word was chosen by translators to say “wife”. Just keep that in your mind as we continue. I believe this could be a significant connection to apply to our study.
I have mentioned previously the direct connection of Revelation 12 to Genesis 3 by God’s designed purpose. God designed the Bible with concealment of related subjects, by spreading out much of the connected information for us to discover by searching the Bible. We are so very blessed to live in the last days when computers, phones and tablets are available to help us in this task. Remember, Daniel 12:4 informs us that in the last days knowledge will increase. God knew computers would exist and He prophesied it accordingly. Praise the LORD!
We understand truth connections do exist simply because the book of Genesis was written by Moses nearly 1600 years earlier than the book of Revelation which was written by John. These two men did not know each other personally, yet their books go together with exact precision. I’m going to repeat something that I have said several other times. But it is important to know and understand. In the book of Genesis, God usually introduces us to every major Biblical subject. Then in the book of Revelation God concludes the discussion on these subjects to conform to how He desired them to be and remain from the beginning. That is why I like to call them bookends. It is like a modern fiction author writing the introduction to the characters and subject in chapter 1 and then concluding with the last chapter and all of the surprises, twists and turns.
The information from the chapters, books and authors that come in between the book of beginnings and the book of the revealing can also provide us additional clues to the subject in question and they usually do. This introduction and conclusion of divine subject information is popularly known as the “Laws of First and Last Mention”.
We need to notice in Genesis 3 the direct connections found in our woman suspect subject study. In Genesis 3:15, we can see that God is introducing us to 1) a woman (other than Eve), 2) her seed, 3) Satan called a serpent, and 4) Satan’s seed. Then in addition to these main characters there is a described 5) great prophesied enmity (hatred) between them. It would probably be good to go back and reread the entire chapters of Genesis 3 and Revelation 12 to see the common subjects, noun and verb connections. Make a list of nouns, verbs and adjectives and then compare the two lists. Sometimes subjects are implied and not directly mentioned so it is good to note the implications. For example, in Revelation the woman is said to be a pregnant wife, and this would imply a husband, even though he was never mentioned directly in the chapter. Let’s examine some of the direct important connections that I found next when reading.
In reading Genesis 3:1 we should easily learn of God’s introduction of “the serpent”. We are never told who this creature is, or if he is literal, or symbolic in this chapter. There are several other Bible studies on this subject that contain additional information, on the subject of the serpent. But we can conclude and believe that this serpent in Genesis 3, was only a symbol for Satan and he was not physically manifested in the garden through a body of a physically created beast of the field. I would highly recommend you go read the Bible lesson “Genesis 3 – Was there a Literal Talking Snake in the Garden”.
We learn from the introduction of the serpent in Genesis that there is a connection to Revelation 12 because this unknown serpent is finally defined and identified to be the dragon in Revelation 12:9. Because God chooses to give us the true definition and identity of the “old serpent” as being the dragon and Satan we should automatically begin to examine what else could also be connected here in these two chapters. This is how God gives us clues to discovering truth, and it is amazingly wise.
This direct connection teaches us clearly, that this “old serpent” in Genesis 3 had to be a symbolic representation for the now implied much larger symbolic “red dragon” in Revelation 12. Both the serpent and the dragon are symbolic names and descriptions of the same evil being named Satan. Also note that there are two verses in Revelation that define the serpent’s identity. Ask yourself, could both of these be a connection? These verse definitions are Revelation 12:9 and Revelation 20:2. These are the only two verses (currently know) in the Bible where God chose to define the true identity of the “serpent” introduced in Genesis 3. This is a very common method that God uses to hide truth in the Bible for us to find. God will talk about a subject in one place and then will suddenly define the subject in a completely new and different place later in the scriptures. This can even occur in a completely different book using a new inspired author like we find in the book of Revelation.
It is just interesting to note that these two referenced definitions of Satan occur in the vicinity of two described women. Revelation 12 is where the woman is mentioned first and then the dragon is introduced with the connection of the serpent definition. Both occur together within one verse in the same chapter. Notice in Genesis 3:1, the serpent occurs first and then immediately followed with him speaking to a woman. This is typical bookend patterns. I pray you know what bookends look like. I placed a sample picture in this paragraph to help. Bookends exhibit a pictured image, but in the reverse order. Wow, that is very similar to what we see in these two chapters. I do not believe that is a coincidence.
Then in Revelation 20 we find the dragon and the serpent definition being preceded again in Chapter 19 by another woman. But this woman in Revelation 19 is called the “Lamb’s Wife”. The word “wife” was the same Greek word translated as “woman” in Revelation 12. Isn’t that interesting? I do not believe that these are accidents either. These are the signs of highly intelligent design connecting related subjects and patterns together.
But, in Revelation 19 and 20 there is a new person that comes between the woman and the dragon. He is the LORD Jesus coming back to the earth with His saints riding on a white horse. Since chapters and verses were numbered and added by imperfect humans long after the writings of the scripture, we can understand that Revelation 19 and 20 are still connected together by verse association and context.
I am not making a fixed declaration of doctrine or a statement of “I’m right and you are wrong” type of conclusion. But I believe that both women mentioned near the dragon and serpent definitions are the exact same woman/wife. I hope you find it very interesting where and how God put them close together for us to discover and learn from.
While it would be nice to go through all of the 10, Revelation 12 verse references today of the woman, we will not because of the increase of the size of the lesson. However, let’s change our focus in Revelation 12, to the woman found again in verse 17 for what God reveals to us to be more directly connected words and subjects found in Genesis 3. This is the last verse in the chapter, and it would appear the subject changes in Revelation chapter 13 to something new.
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
I personally see so many similar subject subjects, characters, descriptions, nouns, adjective and verbs as what we found in Genesis 3:15. This might not be an exact quotation, but the synonymous comparisons are amazingly parallel. We should all be able to see how there are enough overlaps for us to confirm that they are speaking of the same subjects. Can we notice what it says?
Verse 17 starts with a statement that declares Satan to be very angry with this woman. The statement or word in the KJV is actually “wroth” (G3710) and it means to be enraged and angry. That really sounds analogous and synonymous to God’s phrasing of “enmity” and “hatred” (H342) we found in Genesis 3:15. I know that these are slightly different words, but they synonymously connect us with a similar meaning of hatred toward two enemies. Next, we then see within the context of this verse that Satan is said to be at “war” with the remnant of this woman’s seed. Again, this signifies an adversary relationship with the seed of a woman. We learn from this that Satan and the woman are direct enemies in conflict against each other.
That statement is absolutely essential to see and understand, “….and went to make war with the remnant of her seed”. Did you notice that we have been talking about the “seed of the woman”? In Genesis 3 we clearly observe scripture where God prophesies that Satan, and his seed will be at odds with a woman and her seed. Isn’t that what Genesis 3:15 said? God said, “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between her seed and your seed”. Fascinating, isn’t it? Clearly this is not a chance occurrence.
Here in Revelation 12:17 we have God’s very specific mention of 1) a woman, 2) her “seed”, and 3) Satan (the serpent). But this time it is in clear context and relationship to a new symbolic woman revealed in Revelation 12. Or is it a new woman? I have concluded from this information God is connecting the Revelation 12:17 woman with the Genesis 3:15 woman and that they are the exact same woman being spoken of by God. Therefore, whoever the Genesis 3:15 woman represents, the Revelation 12:1 woman must also represent. I believe that God was first introducing us to her in Genesis 3:15 and is now confirming the fulfillment of the prophesied pattern here in Revelation 12. This must be the same woman that God was talking about in Genesis 3:15. We should be able to see that there are too many connections being given to us in these two chapters by divine design and purpose to deny it.
Now how does this verse Revelation 12:17 end? The ending words of the chapter provides us a clear window to the view of the identity of the woman. Who does this verse claim that the Revelation 12 woman is? God in this verse gives us two very specific dependent qualifications for the identity of the Revelation 12:1 woman. These are two distinguishing characteristics of determined truths that must be applied correctly in order to understand (interpret correctly) the identity of the woman in Revelation 12 and here they are:
- She keeps the commandments of God
- She has the Testimony of Jesus Christ
How can we read these statements and not know who God is talking about? Does this describe the Old Covenant natural nation of Israel who practices Judaism? Perhaps you see that it does. If so, please explain why you see it this way to us. Where can you find verses that back this belief? Have you seen any that describe this natural nation of Israel, have succeeded in following all of the laws and the commands of God? It is interesting that only Jesus Christ succeeded 100%. Praise the LORD!
Of course, we might say the same thing about the church also. Has the New Covenant Bride of Jesus Christ completely followed every command? I don’t know of any Christian that is yet perfect and never makes a mistake or sinned. Do you know one? I believe Jesus was the only one and we all should be rising to His living example. But Christians do have an advantage over the Old Covenant. True Christians should be following Jesus Christ their Great Shepherd and listening to His voice on a daily basis (John 10:27). Christians should have the Spirit of Christ living on the inside of them guiding them and this is the help that we need to become more like Him. Also, there are many natural Jewish people that have become Christians by believing in Jesus. The church began with 120 Jewish people in an upper room in Jerusalem (Acts 2) and then they began to spread to Gentiles later with God’s help. So, no one is being anti-Semitic at all. We love all people especially the Jewish people and we want everyone to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus.
Every human has the opportunity to repent and believe in Jesus Christ to be saved. This begins the walk with Him. When we start down this narrow path, we should be led by the Holy Spirit to become like Him and that means to become holy. Now that is when we change to begin to possess the “testimony of Jesus Christ” as God reveals to us in Revelation 12:17. Ask yourself this question; “Does Natural Israel have the testimony of Jesus Christ?” Maybe some teach and believe that this will come to fruition in the tribulation because Revelation mentions the 144,000 from every tribe to prove that will occur. We can’t dispute that. But we should believe that this woman mentioned in Revelation 12 will have Jew and Gentile, bond and free, male and female (1 Cor 12:13, Gal 3:28) and we will all jointly be called the “Bride of Christ”.
I’ll briefly discuss another factor of Grace that is important to know. We are not made righteous because we are perfect. We are made righteous by Grace. It was a gift. 2 Corinthians 5:21 informs us that “He was made sin who knew no sin, so that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him”. Wow, that is amazing. I do not have time to teach this subject fully. Just understand righteousness was a gift, but it was given so that we could change to become dead to sin aka holy, like Him (1 Peter 2:24).
Then there is another verse in the middle of chapter 12 of Revelation that is also related to the identity of the woman with her enemy relationship to the serpent and the dragon:
Revelation 12:11 – And they overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
When I read this verse, I see the corporate church described as an overcoming, victorious body of believers. This can only be describing those that have received the Lamb of God as their personal savior and Lord (Jew, Greek, male, female, bond or free). This must be speaking of people that have applied and appropriated the shed blood of the Lamb of God to the doorposts of their spiritual hearts. When someone is described as having overcome something, that denotes a clear sign of victory at someone else’s ominous defeat. Here we have another confirming picture of the woman in Revelation 12: 1 standing with her feet upon the moon (Satan). Currently there is still just one woman in the Bible suspect list that qualifies to be this woman and it still is only the church the Lamb’s wife!
I would also like to make another quick point about Revelation 12:11. The blood of the Lamb, was just one enemy overcoming factor. The second part of that verse says “… and the word of their testimony”. Do you realize what that says or at least implies very heavily? The Greek word translated as “word” in this is G3056 and it is transliterated as “logos”. The definition literally means “something spoken” but it is used in reference to the Word of God numerous times. It is specifically used by Jesus in Mark 4:20 to describe the “seed” that was sown on good ground to produce fruit. This means real Christians.
We have just discovered a new connection to the woman in Revelation 12. I believe that Satan is in an all-out battle with anyone that professes the Word (seed) of God. Therefore, when we get to Revelation 12:17 I believe this is who Satan is fighting against on the earth. There will be people that were not truly saved after the rapture takes place that will understand what a mistake they have made and attempt to come back to the LORD. These people will have a very difficult time on the earth, but God will help them.
Notice in Revelation 12:15 when God is trying to help these people left on the earth that we are told that Satan the serpent spews water like a flood out from his mouth to try to overcome the woman. Wow, please realize this flood represents “spoken words”. The words could be lies, they could accusations, they could be threats, tricks and deceptions. There are a lot of tactics that could be used to try to get people to turn from their beliefs. However, again God helps the woman by opening the earth to swallow his words. Again, we see a prophecy that they overcame Satan by applying the blood and speaking the Word.
We have just learned of two weapons that can be turned against our enemy Satan. This applies today as well as during the tribulation. These weapons can be transferred back into us wearing the Armor of God. We are told to wear this armor in Ephesians 6. I believe all of the armor of God is based upon the Word of God. So, we have just confirmed how this chapter 12 of Revelation is in parallel to the Genesis 3:15 prophecy. We definitely have a woman versus a serpent and her seed (words) against his seed (words). But let’s go into some verses about the blood next. How many scriptures in the New Testament can you recall that speak of the blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ?
Romans 5:9 – Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
1Co 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Hebrews 9:12 – Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
These are just a representative sampling of verses in the Bible that speak of the work of the blood of Jesus for His church. Understanding the power of the blood of Jesus is an essential part of a successful and victorious walk with Christ on the earth. Knowing what the blood of the Lamb purchased is critical to knowing who you are in Christ. Understanding the purpose of the blood of Christ is essential to a successful earthly Christian life. After understanding these verses, I hope that you can see the direct relationship to the descriptive qualities of the woman especially being clothed with the Sun of Righteousness in Revelation 12:11.
I am not going to go through every verse, but I would like to make a quick point on the first verse from Romans 5:9. Did you notice the connection from the church appropriating the shed blood of Jesus to be justified and to us missing the tribulation? I know it does not say tribulation but please understand this is when the wrath of God will be poured out on the ungodly upon the earth. This 7-year time period is divided into two 42-month periods. The greater tribulation occurs at the last 3.5 years. But yet I believe the church will not be here for any of it if we overcame Satan already using the blood of Jesus and God’s Word. It is a mystery of sorts when people believe the tribulation will occur with some even thinking that God will send His beloved bride through His time of wrath and judgement. But what loving husband would do that to His bride/wife?
If God did this He would violate His own written word. Remember in Ephesians 5 God instructs husbands to love their wives like Christ loves the church. So, if Christ sends His bride through brutal judgment to be murdered then we should do the same! I am being very sarcastic with that last comment. No, we should not do that at any time. Therefore, is the church the bride of Christ? I believe she is! Is the church going to encounter God’s fierce wrath? Not according to the Bible. Wow let’s please wake up and see the true heart of God.
Finally, here is what the Bible says in relation to the qualifications of the identity of the woman described in Rev 12:17. In these verses we will see instructions for the church to obey God’s commandments. God told Israel the basic same things, but this time in the New Covenant He came inside the hearts of people removing their hard hearts of stone to place tender hearts of flesh. This is where He writes His laws on them for us to follow. I just quoted a lot of Old Testament prophetical statements written about the church. But let’s read the instruction in the New Testament:
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
We can see from these sample verses that the Church has been directed (commanded) to keep God’s commandments. They all say something like, if you love me, you will keep my commandments. This is how we know we love God, because we keep His commandments. We know of course that this does not mean that the Church is supposed to keep the law of Moses, but rather the new law of Jesus Christ. Jesus taught us that all the law is summarized in two statements. Love the Lord your God with all of your heart and then love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus gave the church a new commandment to love one another. This new commandment fulfills all of the Old Testament law. If you love your neighbor, you are not going to steal from them, you are not going to cheat them, you are not going to commit adultery with their spouse, you are not going to do anything that will harm them or cause them pain, emotionally, physically, mentally or spiritually. This is the law of LOVE! So let’s look at scriptures concerning those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ, who could this describe?
1Co 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:
2Ti 1:8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Here are just a few of the scriptures related to those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ. We can see that the testimony of Jesus Christ was confirmed in the church members of Corinth. We can see Paul’s instruction to Timothy for him not to be ashamed of the testimony of the Lord Jesus Christ. Then in Revelation 1:9 we can see that John was imprisoned on Patmos for having the testimony of Jesus Christ. Finally in Revelation 19:10 in context with the description of the New Jerusalem, the bride of the Lamb, the angel of the Lord tells John not to worship him, but worship God with his brothers that also have the Testimony of Jesus Christ.
So, we have seen numerous scriptures that indicate directly and indirectly that the church are the people that are supposes to keep God’s commandments and keep the testimony of Jesus Christ. They were also confirmed to be people that must overcome the serpent (Satan) using the blood of Jesus and the Word (Seed) of God. So, we can see from all of these descriptive elements that this certainly narrows the potential identities of the woman in Revelation 12 to only one woman. Using the Word of God to explain the Word of God is the key to understanding the Bible. Perhaps you will join me in my next lesson. Thank you for reading and commenting and may God Bless you tremendously with the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in knowing Christ Jesus. Amen.
If you would like to continue reading this series, you can go to Part 5.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 7 The Book of Ruth
(Ver 1.3) This is now Part 7 in the series of advanced Bible study on the subject of the True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12. I hope and pray that you have been following it from the beginning. If not please go to the beginning and start with Part 1, before you try to read this part of the series. The message should make much more sense, if you take them in the order provided. In the last lesson we scripturally pursued evidence for if the Bible says anywhere that Jesus could be a spiritual father and have a spiritual family with spiritual children. You see if it says in the Bible anywhere that Jesus doesn’t have children or simply does not say that He can, then we would have no real foundational basis for the woman in Revelation 12 being the church covenant wife. I believe we found a few good scriptures that Jesus can and does have a spiritual family and that this spiritual family can or is implied to have spiritual children. One of these scriptures was a popular Christmas card verse about Jesus, with Him being called the “Everlasting Father” in Isaiah 9:6. This verse brought up a new good question. Why would God need to qualify the noun “father” with the type of father adjective “everlasting”? Here we have a noun (father) being limited in scope, modified or qualified using an adjective called “everlasting”. Didn’t most of us always think that God the Father, was the Everlasting Father? Everlasting means eternal or the one that lasts forever. The only logical implication from that qualification is that God the Father is not the Eternal Father, Jesus is. Is this true, or are we missing something?
This is what we will be addressing in today’s Bible lesson. Please remember that no one knows everything, except God. It is best, that we just read and study, the Bible the best that we know how. Then trust the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth as He said He would do in John 16:13. Please stay open to the Spirit of God, and if He wants to teach us something about the Bible, we do our best to listen. Therefore, try to stay open and pay close attention to every word that is written.
In the last lesson we were also focused on the existence of patterns found in the Bible. As you should recall a pattern is nothing but a model from which repeated occurrence can originate. This is truly a very significant topic used by God in the entire Bible. God writes about real historical facts that did occur in human history but then He uses them to teach us about Jesus. Remember what Jesus said to us in John 5:39, “Search the scriptures for in them you believe you have eternal life, but these are they that testify of me”. Jesus just taught us everything in the Bible is focused upon Him directly or indirectly. Jesus just claimed the Words on every page had something that would be a witness about His Life. Wow, that is an awesome concept.
I want to take a turn and explore this subject of a woman in Revelation from a completely different and fresh angle of perspective. So many times, God when He answers prayer, He does so in a way that we were not expecting. God gives us the answer to the prayer, but usually in a new way that was different than what we would have done, or the way that we would have like it to be done. This is a lot of the time, the trouble with our Bible study techniques. Instead of studying a subject from God’s perspective we want the Bible to fit our idea of the way we think it should be. But we soon discover that God if He wanted us to know everything clearly could have written the Bible that way. However, since God wrote the Bible in a concealed manner with a hidden O.T. Jesus we must learn to work with what He has given to us. In doing this we soon learn that we need to change how we think. God is not like us, His ways are not our ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts (Isa 55:8). But that does not mean that we cannot change to learn His ways and think His thoughts. It just takes a transforming and renewing of our mind to know and understand the spiritual things of God (Romans 12:2).
I will start this lesson by saying that the child in Revelation 12 is God as we learned in Part 5 of the series. Every male child in the spiritual family of God is always God. Every female in the spiritual family of God is always the people in covenant with God. So, if a spiritual woman has a spiritual male child it can only be God. I just gave you some very basic concepts of spiritual things that are very important. If you do not understand these, that does not mean they are not true, it only means you may need to learn something that you do not yet know. If you keep reading the lessons, we will eventually all get to a united knowledge of the truth, but it will take time and commitment for us all.
PATTERNS OF JESUS FROM THE BOOK OF RUTH
In this lesson we need to explore the Book of Ruth. There is a Bible series on this subject that has more detail, but we will go through an overview to see how it applies to the woman in Revelation 12. The book of Ruth in the Old Testament has some absolutely fascinating information given to us in it. If you have never read this book perhaps you should do that now, before you continue with my blog. It is a short book, only 4 chapters so it will not take long to read through it and to gain a quick overview of it. To those who have read it and think they know what it is about, let me briefly recap. The primary subject of the book is a woman named Ruth. This woman is a gentile woman, not in covenant with God, not born into or of the nation of Israel. Ruth was a gentile woman not in covenant relationship with God or the Law. This is very important to understand.
The book of Ruth starts with the story of one family that came from Bethlehem. Already we can see some parallels being developed. Where was physical Jesus born? Jesus was of course born in Bethlehem. The story of Ruth starts with this family from Bethlehem leaving their home because of a famine. Famine is a state of or the absence of natural food to eat. Natural food parallels spiritual food and gives us insight into a greater spiritual problem, but I won’t go there right now. Any way this family consisted of the following family members:
- Elimelech, the father
- Naomi, the mother
- Mahlon, a son
- Chilon, a son
This family of four members, rises up and moves to a place called Moab to live because of a severe famine in Israel. There in that land the father Elimelech dies, and the two sons marry gentile women, but they also die. Now we have a family that consists of nothing but three women who were left as widows. These three women were one Jewish mother-in-law with two daughters-in-law. One of the daughters-in-laws leaves and goes back to her gentile family, but the other daughter-in-law made a much wiser choice. This woman was named Ruth, and she said to her Jewish mother-in-law, where you go, I will go, where you live, I will live, and your people shall be my people and your God will be my God. Ruth made a great choice and God honored her decision tremendously, by allowing her to become a great-great-grandmother of King David. Please notice that there are only 4 women directly mentioned by name in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew 1 and Ruth is one of them. God bestowed a great honor upon this gentile woman named Ruth for her faith in trusting in Him and His Word.
We can see a great story unfolding of a gentile woman not in covenant with God, speaking covenant words to be joined into the family of God. These words spoken are a pattern of another future spiritual woman that was to come. In fact, all of these characters in this story I believe represent an allegory of a much higher spiritual reality. God is giving us a look into the spiritual realm by analyzing this story. This story is primarily about a gentile woman named Ruth and this woman is a model, type or pattern of the church.
Her mother-in-law Naomi is a type or pattern of the Nation of Israel. Her Father-in-law is a type or pattern of God. Earlier I told you that males in a covenant family normally always represent God, and the females represent women in covenant with God. In this story of Ruth, we see that the father as well as the sons all die. When Jesus died on the cross who really knew what this meant? Obviously, Satan didn’t know (1 Cor 2:8). I believe that when Ruth’s first husband died that this was a type of physical Jesus’ death on the cross. Now as we read in Romans 7 her husband’s death allows us to legally be remarried without being called an adulteress. But we have been introduced to this topic previously.
Now let me go into what the Book of Ruth is primarily about. You see everything that God said up until this point is just the introduction to the main subject found in the book of Ruth. The primary story line concerns God’s law of the “kinsman redeemer”. If you read chapter one of Ruth, you saw Naomi make a statement to Ruth that she was too old to have children for Ruth to wait around and marry. You see in Jewish families if a son married a wife and died without children it was the responsibility of the nearest relative, a brother to marry the widow to raise up heirs for his dead brother. This is the foundational basis of the story of Ruth.
What hope does Ruth have by hanging around her mother-in-law? Where does Ruth place her trust in for her destiny and future? Ruth is placing all of her trust in the law of God. God’s Word declared that a near relative was responsible to come into the picture and marry the widow to have children. Notice what God just said? The reason for the marriage was to have children for their dead relative. This is so significant that we cannot even begin to imagine what it all means. Ruth the widowed wife is a type of the church. Boaz is the kinsman redeemer, and he is a type or pattern of Jesus Christ, our near kinsman redeemer. This of course is the risen firstborn from the dead Son of God. It is very interesting typology to see how and where Ruth meets her Redeemer. If you read the story, you know she meets him in a harvest field. Jesus taught a lot about grains and harvests in the Gospels. Jesus even teaches us to pray the Lord of the Harvest to send out laborers into the harvest field. Wow, that is not a coincidence.
Boaz takes Ruth the gentile woman to be his wife with a covenant of marriage for the purpose of having children, and they become the great-great-grand-parents to King David. This is amazing stuff if you are understanding the implications. All of these pattern concepts are found in the law, in the book of Numbers and if you read through them closely you should begin to understand some of the spiritual implications to these words:
Num 27:6 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Num 27:7 The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father’s brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them.
Num 27:8 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a man die, and have no son, then ye shall cause his inheritance to pass unto his daughter.
Num 27:9 And if he have no daughter, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his brethren.
Num 27:10 And if he have no brethren, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his father’s brethren.
Num 27:11 And if his father have no brethren, then ye shall give his inheritance unto his kinsman that is next to him of his family, and he shall possess it: and it shall be unto the children of Israel a statute of judgment, as the LORD commanded Moses.
You can see how God goes through a long discourse of how to distribute the inheritance of a family when the father dies. Who is our spiritual Father? Oh well I am sure I will have some say God the Father cannot die and I will not argue with you. You either see it or reject it, you choose. Any way in the law, if the father dies the inheritance begins to go to the children starting with the firstborn. Then if there are no children it is interesting to note that we start with the nearest relatives, uncles and then cousins. We can see a hierarchical order of inheritance being established. God is establishing a law of precedence in the natural realm to demonstrate how He will do something later in the spirit realm. I would like to ask those skeptics out there this question. Did you ever notice in the New Testament that we, in the church are called the joint heirs with Christ? What is an heir? An heir is someone who inherits after someone else died. Get it? Uh oh? Who died to leave us an inheritance? What was it, that we inherited? How did this inheritance follow the law in Numbers that we just read? There are just so many questions to think about, isn’t there?
So, the story of Ruth is a natural pattern to a much greater spiritual truth. We can see Ruth, who is the pattern of the church, marries the redeemer named Boaz a pattern of Messiah. She does this in order to raise up children for her dead husband and his father’s name should not vanish from the face of the earth. Let me briefly give you some scriptures in Ruth that may help you to understand this story better:
Rth 4:3 And he said unto the kinsman, Naomi, that is come again out of the country of Moab, selleth a parcel of land, which was our brother Elimelech’s:
Rth 4:4 And I thought to advertise thee, saying, Buy it before the inhabitants, and before the elders of my people. If thou wilt redeem it, redeem it: but if thou wilt not redeem it, then tell me, that I may know: for there is none to redeem it beside thee; and I am after thee. And he said, I will redeem it.
It was the responsibility of the nearest relative to buy back the land that belonged to and in their family name. In this verse, Boaz approaches a nearer relative first to ask him to buy the land of their brother Elimelech. But as you read down you find this nearer relative refuses, because it would mean that it would ruin his inheritance. You can see in verse 4 that Boaz tells this other relative that if he didn’t buy the land that he would do it, because there are no other relatives that can legally do it. But did you notice the term “redeem”. “Redemption” is a New Testament term and one of the key works of Jesus Christ.
Rth 4:5 Then said Boaz, What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess, the wife of the dead, to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance.
You can see in this verse of Ruth the problem that the other relative is faced with. In order to redeem the land of Naomi, he must marry the gentile woman widow named Ruth and have an heir for his dead relative. This is the law of God given to the nation of Israel and it is very significant to the story of Jesus and the church.
So how does all of this relate to other scriptures in the Bible? I’ll end this lesson with this related reference found in the New Testament:
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Here we have a passage related to God’s law of marriage. These verses have widespread spiritual implications written all over them. Did you notice who they were written to? Paul writes these verses to those under the law. He actually says those that “know” the law (Rom 7:1). To “know” something is a statement related to a covenant relationship. I’ll try to do a lesson in the future explaining that statement in more depth. We can see that Paul is writing these verses to his natural brothers of the nation of Israel. So, while the book of Romans was written to the church, these verses pertain only to the natural Jews. It is very important to see this.
The law stated that a woman who was married could not be married to another man as long as the first husband was alive, or she would be called an adulteress. But the woman whose husband is dead is free to marry another (Rom 7:3). So what does God say to those who were under and in covenant with the law? God told them that they are now free to marry another, and this one that they should marry is the one that God raised from the dead, Jesus Christ. Are you following the reasoning and logic of these statements? Because Jesus Christ was crucified, these verses claim that their former husband was killed or died. That is what Romans 7:4 is telling them.
The crucifixion of Jesus has now freed them from the law to be in covenant with the risen from the dead man Jesus Christ, the Son of God. A marriage to the Son, and not the Father. We can clearly see that these verses do not apply to gentile believers because they were never under the law, or in covenant with God. The gentiles were never in or under the law and therefore were free to be married to whomever they choose. However, the natural nation of Israel was given the law on Mt Sinai through Moses and this law established many boundaries that they are forced to abide with as long as they refuse to accept their Messiah. Let me briefly go back to the book of Ruth and tell you about a statement that Ruth makes that reveals to us the principal of these statements in Romans 7:
Rth 1:17 Where thou diest, will I die, and there will I be buried: the LORD do so to me, and more also, if ought but death part thee and me.
Ruth makes a statement of truth that has widespread implications. You can see from the statement that death represents a dividing line. Death causes a separation of one connected person from another person. Only death can separate us, Ruth said. This is an incredible revelation if you apply it correctly and understand it fully. Ruth gives us a secret to how God will separate himself from Satan. Only by Husband’s death will the wife be freed from the law of her husband. Death represents a division between two connected in covenant individuals. Through death a legal and permanent separation occurs between two people who were in an eternal marriage covenant. It is important to know that God does all things in a legal, orderly and just manner.
There is so much more that we could discuss about these verses, but I wanted to show you another set of verses that speak about God experiencing death for us. The death of Jesus has so much more meaning than we have ever imagined. That means we have an inheritance that must be distributed according to the law. Ruth is a story that has so many great truths in it, that I did not get to them all in this lesson. Hopefully you will continue to study the book and see the other details that God reveals to us. For example, Boaz must go to a closer relative and ask him if he wants to marry the gentile woman. The closer relative refuses to marry Ruth because it will mess up his inheritance, so he thinks. Who is this closer relative representative in the spiritual realm? How does this pattern fit into the redemptive work of Christ? Then there is this fact found again in the genealogy of Jesus. I told you earlier this list only contains the names of 3 or 4 women, and they all have significance and meaning to Jesus. Boaz was a type of Jesus. Who is Boaz’s mother? Boaz is the son of Rahab the harlot. That is also very significant in the typology analysis. Who was Jesus born of? Jesus was born of the natural seed named Mary, that came from the tribe of Judah of Israel. The nation of Israel is also called a harlot in Old Testament books like Hosea. There are so many more things to consider. If you dig really deep you can find so many valuable truths.
So, I have attempted to give you scriptures that show why the woman in Revelation 12 is pregnant, and who this child is and why He must be delivered. The child in Revelation 12 has widely been taught to be Jesus Christ, but the typology and symbolism found in the Old Testament, and in the rest of the chapter 12 does not fit the natural birth of the Messiah. So, we have to look for spiritual truths and spiritual reasons to identify the male child and hopefully I have pointed you in the right direction. We have discovered is that the reason for every covenant marriage between a husband and wife is for the purpose to have an heir. This heir is the person that will continue the family’s named. God commanded this in Genesis 1 when He told them to be “fruitful and multiply”. This too was a divinely designed pattern of creation.
I know I did not cover everything in its entirety, and I know there is absolutely no way that I could do that even if I wanted to. Only God knows everything, and we only see things through a glass darkly and only truly understand what God wants us to understand, when He wants us to understand it. I believe that we have so much more to learn. Thank you for reading this series of lessons and studying the Bible with us. I appreciate your prayers and your diligent Bible study faithfulness. God Bless you.
If you would like to continue in this study series, please go to PART 8 now.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 6
(Ver 2.8) This is now Part 6 in a series of very advanced study in the Bible, exploring the True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12. In the last lesson, we learned a tremendous amount of new Bible facts and concepts to think about and study. I know there are good people yet to be convinced of the identity of the Woman described in Revelation 12. It is very difficult and challenging to teach a complex subject. Especially, one that can be totally new to everyone. When teaching a new subject, I feel led to give enough Bible reasons (scriptures) for everything that is taught to eliminate doubts. Every teacher should feel the same way. But, we only can do this in a limited time and space format on the internet. It is very similar to many church services. The attention span of some people seems to have limits. So we should try to balance not taking up too much of your Bible study time, with providing enough detail in the lesson to confirm everything that is taught. I often leave out a lot of scriptures that could have been included. If you are a pastor, you may know the challenge I am talking about. If you have not been following this series from the beginning, I would strongly recommend that you go back and start reading with Part 1.
SPIRITUAL PATTERNS REVIEW
I do not wish to rehash every previous lesson in the series. But, please allow me to approach this subject of the identity of our child suspect, in a different way than you might expect. I believe we are beginning to learn from the Biblical evidence that only the church matches the patterns of the Revelation 12 woman’s complete description. The facts presented so far should at least cause us to favor the woman’s identity to represent the church. As we should have realized by analyzing God’s Word and His covenant wives, there are a limited number of women in the Bible that the woman in Revelation 12 could be. Therefore, I want to go into a quick review of the already seen Biblical patterns.
What is a pattern? A pattern represents an intelligent design. It can also represent a model or an example. One model can be a view of a much larger more significant reality that is not seen. But, by studying the model we can gain great insight into what the real is like. We can observe patterns, examples and models throughout the Bible. I believe that it is worth your time in changing how you study the Bible to include looking for these hidden patterns.
If you recall there are only three covenant wives mentioned in relationship to God in the Bible. We were introduced to these women in previous lessons. We also went through an overview of these women in these past lessons. We should now understand, how God the Father married a woman that represented a type (pattern) of Hagar. This allegorical Hagar represented the natural nation of Israel (called the earthly Jerusalem) in the Old Covenant (Jer 31:32). Therefore since we are analyzing the a woman producing a child, we should ask “can God the Father have a Son through these natural people?” Obviously, He did and He called His name Jesus, because He would save His people from their sins (Mat 1:21). Therefore, Israel in general appears to qualify to be a wife and could possibly be stretched to be viewed as a pregnant woman. But, to be more specific, it was literally the single individual woman named Mary, that was chosen by God to gave birth to the only naturally born Son of God. So Mary appears to be a closer match and best qualified to be the pregnant wife in Revelation 12.
Then we learned of the free woman and a covenant wife of God the Father, that was a type of Sarah (Gal 4:26). This woman represented the more mature original barren wife of God the Father. She is allegorically identified to be the “Jerusalem Above”. We also discovered that this spiritual woman gave birth to the the risen from the dead Lord Jesus and the church (Gal 4:28). Therefore, this heavenly woman qualifies to be the pregnant wife mentioned in Revelation 12 also. We are not really narrowing our suspect list directly, by focusing only on this single quality of being pregnant and in a covenant. That is exactly why, I was teaching this series subject using other important truths first. This initial focus was to reveal the meanings of the Sun, moon and stars.
But, we haven’t reviewed the fourth suspect. She is the church. We learned that she is married and in a brand new covenant with the risen from the dead Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ. Next, we already asked and answered the question, can the Church’s covenant Husband (the risen Jesus Christ) have any spiritual children? I think you may have been surprised to find, according to the Bible, He can. Jesus was called the “Everlasting Father” in the Isaiah 9:6 prophecy. In fact God wrote that Jesus would be a child, a son and then become the Everlasting Father all in the same verse. Wow, that sounds important. These are repeated patterns found over and over in the Bible.
We have confirmed in the scripture that Jesus was a designed and designated pattern to be or become a Father as well as the Son of God. This verse will at least leave open the door to learning how this future male child that will rule nations with a rod of iron in Revelation 12, can be called a potential Son of Jesus (God the Son). Wow, I probably just rocked your theological religious boat. But please hang-in there with me, until we have read all of the lesson. We are about to potentially discover some Bible verses that we may have never seen, understood or applied.
Let us first start with some fundamental basics that we should already know and understand about the Bible and the Godhead. Matthew 1:18 clearly informs us that the virgin Mary was espoused to Joseph. But, before they “came together” (had sexual intercourse), she was found to already be pregnant by the Holy Ghost. I pray that we can all agree that the Holy Ghost is the same as God the Father, but in the form of the third person of the Triune Godhead. It is very important from this information that we conclude, that it is possible for the Holy Spirit to impregnate a physical natural woman through His spoken Word (seed). I believe that this fact of truth will become a natural pattern on a higher level, for the pregnant spiritual woman found in Revelation 12.
Do you recall how patterns were defined why they are important for Bible study? I try to emphasize this reality because of what we learn in Ecclesiastes 1:9. In this verse is where God states “The thing that has been is that which shall be; and that which has been done is that which shall be done; there is NOTHING NEW under the sun”. Now remember who we have previously discovered the symbolic Sun represents and keep that in your mind. A light bulb should have just popped on inside of you that this verse is related to Jesus very specifically. God does not select words by random accident or choice. God could have said “there is nothing new under heaven” or he could have said, “there is nothing new under the moon”. I hope you didn’t miss the significance of God’s choice for using the “sun”. God just prophesied something so profound that it is amazing to me. I believe God just taught us that what was to come in Jesus, previously happened in patterns that were already done in the past by Him and others. And I believe these could be natural patterns or spiritual patterns and maybe even both dimensions.
A pattern is nothing but a repeated recognizable form. When tailors make a dress, pants, or a shirt, they design and create a repeatable pattern. The fabric material is then selected and cut out from the designed pattern. Then the individual parts/pieces are sown together to create the final dress. Every dress that comes from the same pattern can be recognized as being from the original pattern by a trained observant eye. What we learn from natural patterns, is “good things by design are repeated”. It is a common sense approach that teaches us, what worked before will work again even if it is changed slightly. According to God’s Word, He uses good working established models and patterns. Also these divine patterns can be transferred from the spiritual realm into the natural realm and then even return back to the spiritual (Heb 8:5, Heb 9:23). We should all begin to recognize God’s repetition of patterns in the Bible. Every time we read the Bible we should do it using a trained eye looking for patterns of repetition. Redefine how you view and define prophecy. See prophecy as an a occurrence of a repeated pattern and not just the fulfillment of a prediction. Now let’s get into a few more basic fundamental patterns found in the Bible.
We already know that Jesus is the Son of God (Mat 16:16), the second person of the triune Godhead. The Trinity of God being comprised of the Father (Jn 14:11), the Son (1 Jn 5:20) also known as the Word (Rev 19:13) and the Holy Spirit (Gal 4:6, 1 John 5:7). These three unique personalities make up the One True Living God (1 John 5:7). These are all three personalities of the same Spiritual Being; they in union represent One God. I pray that you agree with these truths. They are actually very, very important and Satan fights us from believing in One God in Multiple Viewed Manifestations.
We must view the Trinity as being three different manifestations of the One God for His unique purposes at varying times. We just learned in Matthew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 that the Holy Spirit caused the virgin Mary to become pregnant. These were two verses that declare the work of the Father, the Word & the Holy Spirit’s together in producing the male child inside of the virgin woman named Mary. Some might ask how Jesus contributed to this pregnancy? Remember Jesus was the Word of God. The Word of God is the Seed of God (Luke 8:11). The same Hebrew and Greek Words for “seed” is also used to describe the male sperm that impregnates a woman. When Mary believe the angel, she said to the messenger “be unto me according to your word”. The message was from God, not the angel and Mary believe it and became pregnant. We also know from reading John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God” then we find in verse 14 that the Word (God the Father) became flesh (God the Son) and dwelt among us”. Therefore we learn how God the Father just manifested in the form of His Son by sending the Word of God to a natural woman. Then after she accepts the Word of God though faith the work of the Holy Spirit manifests the baby in her womb.
Therefore the manifested Son of God must be the same God as the Father and the Holy Spirit God must be the same God as the Father God and the Word of God. Wow, I pray we haven’t lost any readers. So let’s continue our study by confirming some basic information that God (who is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) can be called a Father in the Bible corporately or in each of His separate manifested states of existence:
Heb 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
Heb 12:7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
Heb 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
We can clearly read that God is called the “Father of spirits” in verse 9 of Hebrews 12. These words inspired by the Holy Spirit are very appropriate to our subject study of God being called a male Father. Two names of God are given in this context the first is “Lord” (G2962) and the second is “God” (G2316).
We should immediately try to determine who are these spirits that God is said to be the Father of. Perhaps you noticed that these verses are comparing 1) natural birthed sons and fathers to the much greater spiritual birthed sons and Father. We have just discovered a new relationship, that these two different realms are made from the similar pattern. We need to realize that every natural human being is a simultaneous spirit being. Humans are a spirit that reside temporarily in a natural body possessing an internal soul (mind, will and emotions) (1 Thes 5:23).
By logical reasoning, we deduce that this verse in Hebrews 12:9, at the least implies that every spirit could have their origin from God. We can say this includes every spirit of every human man, woman and child on the planet. But, I would also say that this includes every angelic or demonic spirit that exists also. All of these are spirit beings, and had to originate from God, the Father of spirits since they did not create themselves. That to me is just basic logic. However, it is much more complex than this and we just can’t go into this deeper in this lesson.
We have already examined the Biblical fact that Jesus the Son of God was born of a natural woman. Therefore we can clearly see that God the Father can also have natural physical children, if He desires. In Luke 1:37 God says “With Him nothing shall be impossible”. But, remember what we learned in the last lesson. God says in John 3:16 that Jesus was the “Only begotten Son”. We learned from the Greek word (G3439) definition that “begotten” means the only physically born son. This Greek word G3439 is used in 9 verses in the New Testament and they all mean “the only natural born child”. It is used this way to describe a man in Luke 7:12 that Jesus raised from the dead. It is also used this way for an only daughter that was raised from the dead by Jesus in Luke 8:42.
Feel free to go and study this Greek word usage for yourself. Believing Jesus was the only physically born Son of God is very important. This teaches us that God is not going to have any more physically born natural mortal children that can die, ever again! Mary was the only virgin birth that God the Father will ever participate in by His admission.
GOD TO ADAM PATTERNS
God the Father is said to be the Father of spirits. Can God the Son also be a Father of spirits? We know that Jesus was a 100% natural male and was the 100% supernatural God. We all should know that Genesis 1:26 says “let us make man in our image and after our likeness”. This is an amazing statement. Who is “our” referring to in this verse? I believe it is a plural pronoun referring to God the Father, God the Son/Word and God the Holy Spirit. This would at least imply that we should be able to observe limited patterns of God (Father, Son & Spirit) in Adam and potentially vice versa. Adam is called a son of God in the Luke 3:38 genealogy of Jesus. This genealogy is very profound to our study. God teaches us from Jesus’ human lineage that He was a 100% Son of Adam (man) simultaneously being the 100% Son of God. This confirms how Jesus can be 100% human of the flesh and 100% God in His Spirit.
But, notice what we find in the geneaology of Adam given in Genesis 5. In this description we see how Adam passed his likeness given to him from God (a spiritual pattern) down to his natral children (a natural pattern). Since the pattern of Adam is implied to be passed down from generation to generation, this means it is still in effect when Jesus was born from one of Adam’s descendants named “Mary”. The Luke 3 genealogy is that of Mary. This is important because it makes what Adam did or could have done to remain in the realm of possibility for Jesus.
Therefore, as a 100% male human, Jesus must have been physically capable of having natural children in the normal way with a natural woman. But, just because some deceived people have tried to claim that Jesus had sex with a natural woman on the earth and fathered a child, please do not be so easily deceived by them. I am not going to dignify these false claims by naming anyone that claims this falsity. Jesus never had any natural children on the earth. If He had done this, we would be in serious trouble because this would cause scripture that we depend upon as being truthful to become a lie.
For example, Jesus was called the “ONLY begotten Son of God” as we have read. Then if He had physically produced natural children that would violate John 3:16. This is because He is still God (Emmanuel=God with us). If God in the flesh has another natural born/begotten mortal child then the “ONLY” begotten fails the test of truth. I pray you understand what was stated. The Bible does not contradict itself nor does the words of a man or a prophet contradict the Bible. If words spoken to be truth do not agree with scriptures, throw them in the garbage. Let’s get back on subject.
But, let us revisit the other spiritual possibilities. Can Jesus now in heaven, the second member of the Trinity, now have a spiritual child and become a new Spiritual Father? I think that is an interesting concept to consider especially in light of reading Isaiah 6:9. The only way Jesus could be an Eternal Father is for Him to produce an eternal son. This would only be possible in the spirit realm since that is where He is physically seated. Just ask yourself, when did Jesus become the Everlasting Father? Was it before He died on the cross, after He dies on the cross but before He ascends into heaven, or was it something that would occur after He ascended? We are touching on some very deep thought subjects. What I believe is that the “Eternal Father” title comes into manifestation come much later after ascension. In fact I personally believe that this eternal Fatherhood designation is awaiting complete fulfilment until Revelation 12 is consummated. You probably are scratching your head and asking yourself a lot of new questions. That is good if that is true. However, if you have already written this off as not being true, then leave me a comment and tell me, when Jesus the Son of God became “An Everlasting Father God”.
Think of what we are studying this way, God created natural physical things as a view or pattern into the originating spiritual pattern dimension (Rom 1:20). According to God everything in the natural originated from the spiritual dimension and will return to the spiritual dimension in the end. These naturally created things that we can see around us are shadows, types or patterns of spiritual things that we cannot see or fully comprehend. However, these natural things point us to and give us glimpses into, a realm of unseen spiritual possibilities.
These hidden spiritual possibilities are difficult to fully grasp with our physical eyes and senses unless we understand natural things better. Jesus said in John 3:12 “If I have told you earthly things and you believe not, how then will you believe if I tell you of heavenly things?” Can we understand that Jesus through teaching natural truths, He believed that He was giving us understanding of greater more significant heavenly spiritual truths? These are all just repeatable patterns of God’s design. I pray that you are receiving what I believe is being said by the Holy Spirit in this lesson.
ADAM TO JESUS PATTERNS
I alluded to this subject in the last section of the lesson. So what patterns did God create in this natural world? We obviously cannot address them all in one lesson, but we can narrow our focus into the main topic/subject of the woman and her child in Revelation 12. How will these created patterns help us understand this concept of spiritual pregnancy, birth pains, birth and children? I am still unable to cover the entire single subject matter in this lesson. But we will go into some of the important points, the best that we can.
We will start with God’s created pattern of Adam and Eve in the beginning of Genesis 1 and 2. They represent the initiating father and mother natural pattern of the entire human race. I believe we must remember what we learned in the last lessons about Sarah being a patterned allegorical figure of a pre-existing heavenly woman (Gal 4). It was this heavenly woman that is given to be the church’s spiritual mother. All of this information is a repeated patterns hidden in Adam and Eve. Therefore, the natural Adam and Eve family pattern was done before, but previously it was done in the spirit realm. However, using the Sarah analogy we find that this Sarah type of Heavenly Jerusalem represented a barren wife that had no children. But, that does not diminish the desire of God the Father to have children like Abraham did in Genesis 15:2. Remember, “there is nothing new under the sun” whether it is the natural physical sun or the symbolic spiritual Sun of God. What God said happened to Abraham was a pattern of what was happening in heaven. Wow, this is some incredible information.
Through Adam and Eve’s procreation, they no doubt produced a lot of male and female children (Gen 5:4). Certainly, we know from reading Genesis 4, Cain and Abel came from Adam and Eve, followed by Seth. Keep in mind that these two natural first parents were patterns of hidden spiritual than came before them as well as the things to come after them. For example, if we read Romans 5:14 carefully, we will learn that Adam was also a pattern of Jesus that would be born from his body. The Greek word G5179 was translated as “figure”. But this Greek word literally means a “die”, “model”, or “pattern”. This G5179 is very similar to H1823 that was translated as “likeness” in Genesis 1:26. H1823 means a “model” a parallel to the G5179 definition. Wow, I hope you see what the Lord is teaching us.
What we can see is that God created the first Adam as a “model” or “pattern” of “Himself the Spiritual Father” and this same “model” or “pattern” is being passed down to the future “Jesus”. Therefore we should be able to understand that the recorded Bible events occurring with Adam can all potentially apply to what God might have done before Adam as well as what could reoccur with the Last Adam, Jesus (1 Cor 15:45). There is truly nothing new under the Sun.
You might ask “What events in Genesis might relate to what could reoccur with Jesus?” That is a great question. First, Adam’s bride was taken out of his side in Genesis 2. Isn’t it amazing that Jesus was thrust through on His side hanging on the cross (John 19:34) and blood and water poured out of Him? I do not believe that was a coincidence. I believe the outpouring of the blood and water from Jesus on the cross represented the church bride coming out of His side. Do you recall what Paul wrote in Galatians 2:20? Paul said “I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I that lives but Christ that lives in me…”. If you do not understand what is being spoken of here, you are missing out on understanding a huge spiritual mystery being revealed to us in Ephesians 5 and other parts of the Bible.
In Ephesians 5:22-33 God goes over the law of marriage covenant relationships between husbands and wives. In Ephesians 5 verses 31-32, God actually quotes from Genesis 2:24 from the discussion of taking Eve out of Adam side. This description is,an expression of the first human marriage to be a pattern. “For this reason shall a man leaven his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”. Then God through the Apostle Paul breaks the great revelation wide open in Ephesians 5:32 about God taking Eve out from Adam becoming one flesh as being a great mystery concerning Christ and the Church. God is teaching us the fact that all of this in chapter 2 of Genesis pertaining to Adam was a pattern or a model for Christ and the Church. Let’s move on to the specific topic of children now.
If Adam knew Eve and she conceived a son as Genesis 4:1 teaches us, can it be possible that this is also a pattern for Jesus and His bride? I believe with all of my heart that it is. However, this Last Adam marriage covenant relationship is spiritual and not physical like the first Adam. The pattern of “knowing” is still repeated by God’s design between Jesus and the church. Remember what Jesus says in Matthew to those that thought they knew Jesus?
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
This is very important for us all to understand! Jesus said many will think they knew me and they have even called me LORD. But I will say to them, I never KNEW you, depart! Just as Adam desired to KNOW and have intimate physical relationship with his wife the same appears to reoccur with Jesus. It not only appears to be a reoccurring pattern but has increased to be a requirement for Jesus KNOWING His bride in the New Covenant. There are a lot of people that believe they are Christians and do great things in His name. But according to Jesus they will not enter into the kingdom of God because they are not KNOWN by Him! This teaches us that Jesus must have an intimate spiritual relationship with us personally His bride. If this type of natural intimacy produces natural children, could it be possible that this occurs in the greater spiritual realm? I believe it does because, we read in past lessons about Paul travailing in birth until Christ was formed in other church members (Gal 4:19). Paul was attempting to get other people to come to the saving KNOWELDGE that he KNEW and this would result in their spiritual birth. This birth produced a new spiritual child called Christ in another human. Isn’t God amazing?
We learned previously that whatever is spiritual must produce or birth spiritual offspring. I’m praying that you are following all of this deep information. But, I’m not through yet. I want us to think of something else that is important and probably new to you.
GOD’S NEW NATURAL & SPIRITUAL FAMILY PATTERN
Do you remember what God said to the church in 2 Corinthians? We were introduced to this concept previously when I gave you Galatians 2:20. Paul said He was crucified with Christ…”. Paul claims to have experienced what Jesus experienced on the cross. Then in Ephesians 2:6 Paul claims us to be raised together and sit with Christ while still being physically here on the earth. What is this concept being taught? Let’s read to refresh our memory:
2Co 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
This is an amazing verse that I cannot fully teach today. Notice that I underlined only the words that are found in the Greek and not the italicized words that were added by the translators. Now, please read the underlined words only. It would say “if any man in Christ a new creation: old things are passed away; behold all things are become new.” That is an amazing truth displaying Jesus to be the “new creation” and not us. Many times Christians make things in the Bible to be totally about them when really it is totally about Jesus Christ.
We the church do become a part of Jesus the new creation but only, if we are IN HIM. Therefore, Jesus was made by God, a new creation that never existed before. Why was it necessary for God to create something brand new? Think about that question. But, realize first that this teaches us that if we personally remain in (know) Him and He in (known) us, we are included in this new creation work. Have you thought of why all of this would be important? I have taught this truth in other lessons, but I will give you a quick overview of why this was essential for the plan of God.
Jesus being raised from the dead and becoming the “first born” from the dead, causes things in the spiritual realm to occur that not many have seen. For example His death and resurrection birth caused Him to legally separate Himself from every previous covenant that He had ever made with anyone. Remember “death” is a legal separation from a covenant marriage according to the Word of God and His Law (Ruth 1:17). We learn this by reading Romans 7:1-4. Paul, writing to Jewish believers, claimed they were bound under the law to their first (Old) Covenant marriage with God by law. In other words Paul writes that if they entered into a new covenant with anyone else they would be committing adultery. But, then Paul teaches them in verse 4, because Jesus died, they have been released from that old covenant, in order to be legally married in covenant to another, the risen Lord Jesus. Wow, this is so important to understand.
What we learn from this teaching is that when Jesus died, He not only separated God from the Old Covenant, He must have also separated Himself from the Angelic covenant with Lucifer. Now legally speaking God is not bound to keep His covenant with either Jerusalem. This means the earthly and the heavenly Jerusalem were both freed from previous covenants with Jehovah God. Natural Israel is free to now be saved from hell by believing in Jesus. Also they are now not legally bound to keep all the commandments of the Law that were impossible to keep. Finally, Satan/Lucifer is NOT open to entering any New Covenant with the risen Jesus. Therefore, Satan and his angels are headed to hell (Mat 25:41) at the end of man’s 7000-year history and the book of Revelation fulfillment (Rev 20:10).
We are learning more about how God uses repeated patterns. But we must never forget that He can also do something brand new if He so desires. Jesus becoming a new creation was a total shock to Satan. God becoming flesh (John 1:1-14) to die on a cross and save humans literally blew the minds of the devil and all his followers. They never imagined that there would come a time when they could not enter into heaven. This is exactly why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 2:8 “which none of the princes of this world knew, for if they had known they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory”. The Bible should be making more sense when you learn these previously hidden truths. I believe the death and the shedding of the blood of Jesus on the cross paid the price for all of our sins. But, I believe that it was the resurrection of Jesus from the dead that transferred saved people (those that wanted to believe and confess Him as Lord) out of Satan’s kingdom. Never forget that according to Romans 10:9 “If we confess Jesus as Lord and believe in our heart that God raised Him from the dead, we will be saved”. Therefore, believing in the resurrection is essential. Let’s move on to a new part of our discussion.
In recent paragraphs we spoke about the topic of intimacy between a covenant husband and wife. The word “in” is a major part of both physical and spiritual intimacy. I’m not going to explain that, I believe you know what that physical intimacy means. However, what it means to be “in” Christ and for Him to be “in” us can be challenging because of the spiritual nature of the subject. I believe this being “IN” Christ is significantly grounded to us being in and remaining in the Word of God. There are a lot of people that walk down the church aisle to give their lives to Jesus, but then never open their Bible to learn who He is. I hope and pray that is not you.
Just understand there are a lot of verses in the N.T. that claim we should be “in” Christ and Christ should be “in” us. This principle represents spiritual intimacy. What does it mean to be “in” Christ? It includes a lot, but it must include us studying the Bible more than occasionally. It should also include us praying and seeking to hear His voice. Remember in John 10:4 Jesus said “My sheep KNOW my voice”. But, that is getting us off the main subject. The main part of the 2 Corinthians should be that we are in Jesus who is a New Creation. That implies a lot of new things for us to consider.
God created the family of Adam and Eve as a separate and independent new family unit from heaven. I believe that this new family unit was modeled after God’s pre-established family unit already established in Heaven. As we know now Adam was created as a natural pattern who represented a new natural family father. Adam had every natural living human being on this planet on the inside of him. Adam should be called the natural father of the entire human race because we were all “in” Adam. We learn a principle in the Bible that whatever happened to Adam, happens to everyone that comes out from Adam in 1 Cor 15:22. We were all “in” Adam when he sinned therefore, death passed to every human (Rom 5:12). This natural pattern is further confirmation to what was taught about us being in Christ. We were crucified with Christ because we were “in” Christ and sprang forth out of Him.
We all know that Adam had a child through Eve. This I believe is future pattern of the Last Adam Jesus that was to come. There is a spiritual truth being given to us here that anything that happens to your father is passed down and has happened to every descendant of their father. We can learn this by us inheriting the law of sin and death from our original father Adam. We can confirm this as us now being “in” Christ to be crucified with Him. Wow, this concept is amazing. This knowledge literally shook me to the core of my inner being when God revealed it to me. We can find a great confirming witness in Hebrews 7:9-10. In these verses God’ reveals to us that Levi paid tithes “in” his great-grandfather Abraham three generations before him. This occurred because Levi was contained within one sperm cell inside of Abraham that created the descendant Levi. Wow, wow, wow!
That was a major clue to why Satan should not have killed Jesus Christ, if you didn’t understand it. Our current subject is really focused upon spiritual fathers and their sons and how they can have children because they were made in the likeness of their father. Just as God was the Father of Adam and Adam took a wife and had a son, so I believe God the Father impregnated Mary to give birth to Jesus. And this Son named the Last Adam has the same potential to have His own Son like the first Adam. Can you see what I am proposing for your evaluation, consideration and study? I do hope you are following this logic and that you understand the concepts of patterns. But, let us take a look at what the Bible says, here are some interesting verses that pertain to our current subject:
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
These verses in Ephesians give us two valuable further conformations. First that God is a Father and that He also has a family. Previously at creation in Genesis 1 God’s household was comprised of only a family of spiritual beings in heaven. I believe that these heavenly patterns were representative of the patterns that He implemented and passed down to be followed by Adam and Eve’s household and family structure here on the earth. I believe that Adam’s family was a natural family with natural parents giving birth to natural children. I then believe this pattern was passed further down the line into the life of Jesus to be repeated again concerning a new spiritual family. I’ll talk about this from the Bible next and give you scriptures to confirm it.
Now let’s explore this logic scripturally and see if it holds water and passes God’s litmus test of truth. We need to see if there are any scriptures that speak about Jesus beginning a family. Let’s start this analysis with this scripture in Hebrews:
Heb 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
When I first read this verse, I almost missed what God was saying. It is so interesting that I studied it for a long time until God showed me what it was really teaching us. You see this verse is speaking of Jesus our Lord as the Son of God. This verse declares that this new Son Jesus has established a new house. This is a new house that did not exist before just like the New Covenant had never existed before either. This was also just like Him being the new creation that never existed before. But what does God mean when He says house? A new house implies a new family. In fact if you look up the Greek word (G3624) translated as “house” it is defined in the Strong’s that it figuratively means “a family”. How does God define a family? We can learn this through His creation. Jesus implies in Matthew 19:4 God made His type of family as beginning with one male and one female. These two then have children and that is the normal basis of a family.
Why did the Father God have the need to establish a new spiritual family through Jesus Christ? Apparently there was some major flaws and problems with the old spiritual family of God. We have already discussed this answer previously. We should not understand that everything in heaven was great and even called perfect until sin was found in Lucifer. You can read about the rise of evil in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28. God gives us a windowed spiritual view of His problem in these chapters. Lucifer was filled with pride and God needed to find a legal solution to remove this evil from His presence.
As we learned Satan would not have crucified Jesus on a cross if he had known the consequences for killing Jesus (1 Cor 2:8). You can learn from that scripture that something happened through His death on the cross to cause Satan to be very unhappy with the outcome. Something major happened that affected him directly and personally. We have already seen how this was the loss of God’s covenant with him and the angels. Therefore, Satan lost his right to his home in heaven and his place in the previous family of Jehovah. This is separation and loss of heavenly rights are finally put into full effect in Revelation 12 the exact chapter that we are studying. Can you see the connections being made and how the Bible all fits together to tell one story using dispersed clues? I wish I could go into all of this in more depth but I just don’t have the time. I did give you major clues on this subject so I hope you can put the pieces together and seek the answers for yourself.
So we can see from Hebrews 3:6 that Jesus has established a completely new family unit for a new God family. We have already seen that God calls Jesus Christ the last Adam in the New Testament (1 Cor 15:45). God connects Jesus to the pattern of Adam directly. We can definitely see that Adam was a natural pattern of the spiritual Jesus. Adam had one wife who was the body of Adam, Jesus now has one wife who is the body of Christ. Let’s review this verse to confirm:
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam‘s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
What is the subject of this verse? It is directly related to Adam, and God says Adam is a pattern of Jesus to come. There are many other parallels and patterns that we could explore, but let’s continue with our subject and study, can Jesus have his own family.
We know from Hollywood and a non-Christian author that Satan has attempted to say that Jesus who was a physical man for 33 and 1/2 years, had a sexual relationship with a woman on the earth and had children. I often times wondered why it was important for Satan to try to plant these misdirected false seeds in the minds of people on the earth. Satan rarely does anything that does not have a purpose. I believe it is an attempt to distract us from the truth. True Christians will always reject that Jesus had a sexual relationship with a natural woman, but what else does the words of author do to us? They automatically cause us to potentially reject any other new Bible assertion that Jesus could be a spiritual father of a spiritual child. The automatic conclusion would be, if we accept the physical child birth we are more likely to reject a spiritual child birth. But here is the main reason why we should reject the physical child birth, because it is not in the Bible. So we should determine if the spiritual child birth is found in the Bible.
We can see so many verses that give us widespread implications of the establishment of a new family of God if we look for them. Here is a verse that speaks to us along these lines:
Gal 6:10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.
Using basic logic and common sense again we can see this verse speaks of two divisions of people. Those who believe and those who believe not. Those who believe are a people in a new family or a new household called faith. This word “household” literally means people who are close relatives. This is like those who are living in the same family dwelling. But this is not just any family this is His family, the family unit of Jesus Christ. Those that have believed in Him.
So we have seen scriptures that indicate Jesus has established a new family of God and that this family is a new spiritual household with new family members of faith. So does Jesus Christ have children? Here is another scripture that I found absolutely fascinating. We have seen this before but we will review it again:
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
This verse is absolutely more proof and evidence that people read things and don’t see exactly what God says. I’ve had this Bible verse printed in a bunch of my Christmas cards and I didn’t see it for a long time. Did you see it? What are we researching? Are we not attempting to find verses that declare Jesus the second figure in the Godhead to be a new father? Is not this verse about Jesus Christ? Sure it is! Jesus is the child that was born, and the son that was given. We can clearly see that Jesus, the Son of God is also being called a father. But, notice this verse in Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus Christ the “Everlasting Father“. Do you understand the implications behind that short statement? I doubt very seriously that many do. Why does God need to put an adjective “everlasting” in front of the noun “father”? The reason anyone does this is to differentiate one father from another father using a finite descriptive quality of one that is not found in any other. You see I thought God the Father was the Everlasting Father? This is truly mind blowing information that is much deeper than I can fully cover in this lesson. But, I will give you one verse to consider in the discussion of why Jesus can be called the Everlasting Father and why the Father God the 1st in trinity did not use this title to describe Himself. I mentioned this verse earlier but it is worth emphasizing again:
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
We know from reading the context that this verse was written directly to only “Those that KNOW the LAW”. That is just God’s way of saying the Jewish people that were under the LAW of Moses and legally married to Him according Jeremiah 31:32. Because natural Israel was in a legally binding covenant with Him, they would not be able to be joined into the new covenant with Jesus Christ without being called an adulterer. Wow, notice the fact that God is informing us the old covenant is not the new covenant and being in both simultaneously is spiritual adultery.
But, since Jesus who was God made flesh died on a cross physically we learn from this verse that the naturally born Jewish people can now legally be “Married” (in a New Covenant) with the risen from the dead Jesus without being called an adulterer. Wow, this is so important to understanding so much of the Bible that it would take a book to write everything that is being taught here. The main point for this discussion is simply this is the reason why the risen Lord Jesus will be given the title “Everlasting Father”.
Did you know that you or I can not be legitimately called a father or a mother, unless we have children. That is just a basic Bible fact. So if we read in Isaiah 9:6 that God calls Jesus the “Everlasting Father” we can conclude that he must have at least one child. However as we have been discussing there are two kinds of fathers in the Bible, one is a natural father and the other is a spiritual father. A natural father is only someone that has sown natural sperm into a natural woman and she has conceived and has given birth to a natural child. Then and only then is he is called a father.
Spiritually speaking a pastor, a priest or a bishop could be a spiritual father. All of the apostles in the New Testament were considered spiritual fathers. Paul was considered a spiritual father (1 Tim 1:2, 2 Tim 1:2). In fact any Christian can sow spiritual seed (God’s Word) into the heart of a non-Christian and if they believe and Christ is conceived in them, then they also become a spiritual parent. You see there are spiritual families in different designs and patterns in the Bible as well as natural families that are similar. That means there are spiritual seeds that were sown into the hearts of men and women and they have believed and accepted Jesus as Lord to now be in Him. The spiritual process follows a pattern of the natural process so that we can understand it.
So I have given you a lot of new information to think about. I have given you direct and indirect scriptures that teach us Jesus Christ is a Son who has established a new family for God. This family consists of Jesus the bridegroom, the Church his wife and some potential spiritual children. You have to study the pattern of Adam and Eve and you have to put some pieces of the puzzle together. I know there are still some that don’t see what I’m saying. Before I comclude let me quickly give you one more revelation from the Word of God. Jesus called Himself the Son of God and the Son of Man. The Hebrew word “Son” (and Jesus was a Jew) means “the builder of the family name”. In other words Jesus said I am born a Son to build a new family for God and for Adam. Everytime Jesus said He was a Son, He implies that He will have children. This basically leaves Satan and the other demons out of the new family established by Jesus and His bride. I guess I’ll stop there in order not to overwhelm you with too much new information all at once.
I hope you realize how difficult it is to give you just a little bit and not cover a subject with all the possible scriptural backing. If what I write is just my opinion it is not worth a penny, but if it is God’s Word, then you cannot dismiss it or write it off, unless you are foolish. All we have seen so far is the possibility that this child in Revelation 12 is a child of the church and Jesus. , We have learned the basic foundation for why it was necessary for a new divine spiritual family. We have not yet fully learned all of the reasons why God did this. I personally am not sure anyone but God knows all of the reasons. But, we will continue with the subject of the identity of the woman in Revelation 12 and her child in my next lesson. I pray that you are thinking with your spiritual eyes open and that you understand the Bible lessons being presented. I would recommend that you reread them over and over. Thank You for taking the time to study the Word of God with us. God Bless you and keep you until next time.
If you would like to continue reading this series, you can continue with Part 7.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 5
(Ver 3.1) This is “Part 5” in an advanced Bible study series concerning the subject of the True Identity of the Woman found in Revelation chapter 12. This Bible study is intended for spiritually mature Christians only. Please understand this before continuing with your reading. Also, if you have not read this series from the beginning, it is highly recommended that you and start with Part 1. In the last lesson we went into verses found in Revelation 12 that described dependent qualities and features of the woman. A dependent quality or description is simply one that must be found true and be present in the primary object in order for the identity to be known or to be true. These dependent descriptive terms spoke of 1) those that overcame with the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony, 2) those that kept the commandments of God and 3) those who possessed the testimony of Jesus Christ. I provided a number of verses that demonstrated these qualities are describing the church. I hope and pray that you have read all of the lessons because these dependent facts of truth only point us to one possible identity of the woman in Revelation 12. I believe she is the church. Today I would like to begin the challenging process of identifying the man child that this woman in Revelation 12 is stated to be pregnant with to deliver in verse 5. I do not think that I will be able to go into everything that I would like to today, but with the LORD’s help we will get there eventually.
PERSECUTION BECAUSE SATAN KNOWS HIS TIME IS SHORT
First, why is Satan persecuting the woman in Revelation 12? This is just another basic who, what, when, where and why question, that we need to ask about for the woman in Revelation 12. I want to briefly answer this difficult question without going into a lot of the complex details about the subject of persecution. In more than one verse of chapter 12 we can clearly see that whoever this woman represents, she is heavily persecuted by Satan (for example, Rev 12:13). We can further read that a hatred and anger is directed at the woman by Satan for some reason that is not directly stated. Satan is said to be literally at war with this woman (Rev 12:17).
Let’s begin this part of the lesson with the definition of “persecution” (G1377). The Greek word G1377 translated as “persecuted” in Revelation 12:13 is defined by Strong as “to pursue”. This Greek word is akin to the Hebrew word H7291 that is defined by Strong as “to run after with hostile intent”. Obviously, this is Satan chasing after this woman for an evil purpose (John 10:10). I personally believe that this purpose was to attempt to eliminate this woman and her seed. We can read about the kind of persecution being done by Satan in Revelation 20:4. Here we are told that John was given a future vision of the “souls that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus Christ”. This Greek word G3141 translated as “witness” in Revelation 20:4 is the same word that was translated as “testimony” in Revelation 12:17. I do not believe that this is a coincidence. In fact, I call it a divine clue to the woman’s identity, and she speaks like a Christian in the Church.
However, I believe these statements of being pursued by evil can and do apply to both the natural Jewish people in the nation of Israel as well as the Church. This persecution is one major reason why many Christians have assumed that this woman in Revelation 12 must be natural Israel. Anyone living in modern history of the last 100 years has seen the Jewish persecution increase firsthand. It happens frequently even today. But, during World War II, persecution of the Jews occurred on a scale that is staggering. It is very obvious to me that Satan filled the heart of Hitler with his desire to wipe Jews off the planet earth. This same spirit is now working in the middle east to drive out Israel from their land into the sea. Therefore, natural Israel more than qualifies to be this woman in Revelation 12 on this single point of persecution. But this one truth is not the only truth that we need to identify our suspect.
For example, someone might say they just saw a man with a blue shirt and jeans rob the bank. Could the policeman go and arrest the first man that they saw fitting this narrow description? Would they feel confident that this man was their suspect bank robber? Obviously, I do not believe they could. There could be thousands of men on the street wearing those items that match closely and all of these can’t be the one alleged bank robber. Therefore, we still need a more complete confirmation by examining all of the evidence and facts given to us.
Let’s get back to answering the question “why is this woman persecuted”. I believe the Lord has shown me that there are two completely different reasons why Satan is persecuting these two possible named Bible women (Natural Israel and the Church). However, both of these reasons are motivated by Satan’s desire and need for self-preservation and survival. Going deeper, I believe that this desire for self-preservation is rooted in Satan’s fear. Let’s read what one demon cried out to Jesus in fear:
Mat 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
If you haven’t figured it out, Satan knows that he has a specific time limit to legally be here on the earth. When we read Matthew 8:29, we learn how the devil that being cast out by Jesus was crying “Have you come to torment us before the time?”. What time does this evil spiritual being understand, that is coming before he can be legally tormented? The Greek word G928 translated as “torment” literally means to “torture” and cause “pain”. Therefore, the devil has a great fear-based concern that this time of pain was coming too fast and too soon. He implies to Jesus “has the time been shortened and is now about to happen to us?” This is great wisdom to learn from. Devils do not understand everything about the timing of events that are prophesied to be coming.
But, we later read and learn in Revelation 12 that Satan discovers and understands the time is now very, very short. This occurs after he is thrown out of heaven during the first half of the 7-year tribulation (Rev 12:12). From all of this information we learn there is a specific time of pain and torture punishment coming for evil spiritual beings. We also learn that it has not yet occurred. Just as no one knows the exact timing of the rapture, no one knows the exact time the tribulation will occur after the rapture. Therefore, Satan is living in constant fear awaiting the clock to tick down.
We do know from reading Romans 11:25 that there appears to be a limit to God’s patience in the church age. I still believe that this is approximately 2000 years. But in this verse God declares that there is a “fulness of the Gentiles” that must occur before He returns to get us. The Greek word G4138 that was translated as “fulness” literally means to fill up a container like a cup to overflowing. In other words, when the cup is full the time of the end of the church age is now complete. Satan is definitely not looking forward to this coming fulness.
Satan is doing everything that he can, in his power to try to stop the planned design of God and save himself from being cast into hell. I could go into this in much more depth, but I believe I will save that for possibly a future Bible study topic. Just keep in mind that both women named 1) natural Israel and 2) the Church Bride are being persecuted by Satan to try to stop the plan of God. Therefore, both partially qualify based upon that truth to be the woman suspect in Revelation 12.
But, as we have learned from verses in this chapter, there are other dependent truths that must line up in order to conclude the true identity of the woman. We can’t just take a few parts of the chapter, ignoring the rest and to say this is why I believe the woman is Mary, or Israel or the Church, etc. Any conclusion of identity must be based upon an complete factual list of all known parts. We must not ignore or omit any fact that we don’t like or don’t understand. Doing this provides a legal basis of reasonable doubt to possibly exclude any woman from being our suspect. In legal terms this is called “exculpatory” evidence. If a prosecutor knows facts that will exclude the defendant from prosecution and they do not present them to the defense or the judge, that prosecutor is evil and unjust. That is the reason we are going through as many facts as we can to determine the identity of this woman. We will now continue to explore the subject of why and how the woman is pregnant?
INTRODUCTION TO THE MALE CHILD
This of course will be something new and challenging. As if nothing that has been said in this series has not been something new and challenging. Because of our previous human bias and prejudices that came from our past teachings of the Bible, some can tune out what may be new or different too easily and fast. This part of the lesson about the male child in Revelation 12, is the part of the lesson that most people believe they are so sure who this baby represents. This causes a stronghold of resistance and for a lot of baby Christians a hatred to what is being given to them to help them grow. This is exactly what Paul said in Galatians 4:16, “I have become your enemy because I tell you the truth”. Please do not be like others that refuse to at least taste what is presented to see if it is good before you spit it out (Psalm 34:8).
We can begin our search for the identity of the child by looking into our Bibles for qualifying descriptions found in Revelation 12:5. Let’s read the important verses in question. Hopefully, we will see what is stated because this is what has been used by many Bible teachers to select their definition and identity of the woman and the child:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
We can read about a man child that is brought forth after the woman was crying out in travail in birth pains in verse 2. Then in verse 5, it should be very clear, that whoever this child represents, that we are told by God that he is “to rule all nations with a rod of iron“. Who can this be? Almost everyone teaches that this is only speaking of Jesus. That certainly sounds true. But is that the complete truth? But what do we find if we search our entire Bible for the phrase “rod of iron“? We will find only 4 verses that contain this phrase.
First, this statement of a “rod of iron” was given to us by God in Psalm 2:9 as a prophecy. This verse prophecy must be Jesus based upon the contextual content. But then we discover the next time this phrase occurs is when the Lord Jesus himself quotes from Psalm 2:9 in His letter written to Thyatira in Revelation 2:26-27. In these verses spoken to the “Church” of Thyatira, it is amazing what Jesus says. Jesus said to them, “that whoever overcomes and continues His works to the end, they will be given power over nations to rule with a rod of iron“. Wow, that appears to change the perspective and the possible inclusions of who the prophecy is speaking of dramatically. Here we literally have the LORD Jesus (who most believes this rod of iron is speaking of), and He was speaking to the church and transferring this authority and responsibility to the church that overcomes. What we have just observed is a prophecy and Jesus teaching us about it by quoting it about the church. I believe that is VERY IMPORTANT new information to use to interpret and understand Revelation 12.
Finally, we can see the fourth and last reference to someone “ruling with a rod of iron” in Revelation 19:15. This is when Jesus is returning to earth riding a white horse, with a double-edged sword coming out of His mouth. It now appears from this verse the focus has shifted again back to Jesus ruling with a rod of iron. However, it is very interesting to back up in Revelation 19:14, to read about the church coming back with Him to rule. These people must represent the church that overcame their enemy back in Revelation 2:27.
This is very interesting information to consider. We have two verses about subjects “ruling with a rod of iron” that appear to be in apparent direct contradiction. When this occurs, it is usually our ignorance that causes the only conflict. God always has an answer in the Bible for every apparent contradiction. The Bible never contradicts itself. God never contradicts Himself. God and alol of His Word are faithfully in harmony. It is only our human lack of understanding of what was said that causes any confusion.
We can begin to resolve the conflict when we apply the light of the Church being called Body of Christ in verses like Romans 12:5, and 1 Corinthians 12:12. It would appear logically that if Jesus the Head of the church body rules with “a rod of iron“, then His body must also rule with Him, the same way. How can the main part “head” of the complete body rule and all of the other parts of His body be excluded? If my head goes to the restaurant for dinner, my feet usually must take me there in order to feed my stomach. I believe this is what is being taught to us in these passages. Please keep this in mind as we study this child ruling with a rod of iron over all nations.
POSSIBLE CHILD SUSPECTS
Please allow me to continue by giving you a list of possible candidates for the identity of the male child in Revelation 12. One of these candidates you have all heard of before but the others maybe you have not given them much thought:
- The physical male child named Jesus born in Bethlehem brought forth from the virgin Mary.
- The Risen Savior Jesus Christ, the “first born” from the dead.
- The Holy Spirit of God also known as the Spirit of Christ that indwells believers.
As you can tell by my short list of possible male child candidates, I believe that the child can only be the omnipotent God in some manifested form. I am convinced that the child cannot be anyone else, but 1) God in the flesh or 2) Jesus risen from the dead, or 3) God in the Spirit. So let us do some logical analysis of the verse in Revelation 12 that speak about this birth of this male child using other truths that are given to help us understand the concepts of birth. We will begin this discussion with a basic law of birth given to us directly by Jesus.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Please see what this verse says and apply it to the woman and her child in Revelation 12. If the symbolic woman is a spiritual reality (being like the church body), then the child MUST also be a divine spiritual child and cannot be a physical or natural child named Jesus. Therefore, the church cannot give birth to physical Jesus. Also, if the woman is a natural human being (like Mary), then the child must also be natural baby child. That is just basic logic based upon law and it is what the Word of God says. Therefore only Mary could have given birth to a male child named baby Jesus.
Jesus himself, taught us “that which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of spirit is spirit”. Taking what Jesus said literally we can learn that there are ONLY two kinds or types of female birthing dimensions that are possible. One is natural and the other is spiritual. This would agree with Jesus other major lesson in John 3 when He taught us, “You must be born again to see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). Jesus explained to a natural man that he could be born again spiritually.
Therefore, this woman in Revelation 12 must either be one natural physical woman with a naturally birthed physical male child or one spiritual woman with a spiritually birthed male child. Notice that Jesus claims that these two types can’t be mixed up. If there was an attempt to change the natural and supernatural in any other way, it would violate God’s Word! Therefore, there can’t be a spiritual woman that gives birth to a physical child. Nor can there be a natural woman giving birth to a spiritual child. I pray that we all agree with the Word of God so far.
Now let’s go through the women and child possibilities, one at a time to see who might fit this Revelation 12 pattern. This will help us determine or at the least narrow who the child could be. We will begin with the Virgin Mary.
CAN THE CHILD BE THE ONLYBEGOTTEN SON OF GOD?
So, what is the best way to describe the physical Jesus born to natural Mary in Bethlehem found in Matthew 1 and Luke 2? There are actually two different descriptions used by God to describe “Jesus”. We should already know that Jesus was born naturally through a literal physical woman named Mary who experienced all the normal natural pains of childbirth. All of her natural travail physically produced a male child in a Bethlehem manger. One description of Jesus is found in Matthew 1:25. This title teaches us that Jesus was the first child that Mary, she ever birthed. It also implies by the description of “first” that she birthed other children. But notice the title “the First Born” of Mary.
Now let us review a verse that we should all have memorized. John 3:16 informs us “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son…”. The Greek word G3439 that was translated as “only begotten” literally means “only born”. This description contradicts with the Matthew 1:25 title of firstborn. The terms “Only” and “First” cannot agree to both be true simultaneously unless there is a greater hidden meaning that needs to be revealed. Therefore, we can resolve this conflict by learning that the “firstborn” title could only be directed at only human Mary’s first child of many. This simply teaches us that the other children that were born from human Mary did not come from the Holy Spirit. Then we can begin to understand that the term from John 3:16 “only begotten” could only be speaking of God the Father in having just “one naturally born” Son of God. So far, we are just addressing the physical birth process of Jesus and one potential conflict.
But there is a new conflict that arises from other scripture verses. For example, the term “only begotten” Son found in John 3:16 would conflict with Romans 8:29 where Jesus is called the “firstborn” (G4416) of many brothers”. Here we have the same type of conflict that God was using to describe Mary’s child being her first born with God’s Son being His “Only naturally born” child. We resolved this conflict by understanding “first” naturally born child was only speaking of Mary’s son and “only” naturally born Son was speaking of God’s child born though Mary. Same child but from two different perspectives.
Can we understand the new conflict being presented to us in the scripture? One verse claimed that Jesus was the “only born” Son of God (John 3:16) and the other claimed Jesus to be the “first born” Son of many others. The word “only” means there are no others and the verse with “first born” means or implies there can be many others (Romans 8:29). The only resolution for this conflict is what God calls rightly dividing the Word of Truth. “Only Begotten” has to be defined as a “natural birth” (flesh) and “First Born/Begotten” has to be defined as a “spiritual birth” within the Spiritual realm. I do not believe many Christians have been taught that Jesus was born twice, once naturally through Mary and once spiritually through a currently unknown spiritual mother. But that is what the Bible is teaching us. This knowledge also establishes a pattern of truth that it is possible for God to do whatever He pleases to accomplish His plan and will. I know that this is a very deep subject, and I pray that no one is drowning in the depths.
Please just remember that Jesus (God in the flesh) was the only begotten son of God birthed naturally from the natural physical woman named Mary. Let’s quickly establish the proof that Jesus was 100% deity being God as well as Jesus being 100% a man simultaneously. That blows the mind of a lot of religious people. But nothing is impossible with God. We learn His deity by knowing that Jesus was the Word of God (Rev 19:13). Then we combine that knowledge with the Word was God who created everything (John 1:1-3). Then later in the same chapter God says the Word (God) was made to be flesh and lived among us (John 1:14). Therefore, Jesus was God and God was Jesus, but He entered legally into the world being born in the flesh as a natural human male child (John 10:1). We also learn in Matthew 1:23 that Jesus was given the name Emmanuel meaning “God With US”. So, baby Jesus was a physical male child born of the flesh, even though He was still the Son of God. If anyone does not understand the virgin birth, I would recommend that you go and study this subject on this website. I do not have the time to teach that again here.
Now the humanity of Jesus must be confirmed. Jesus always made a major point when walking the face of the earth in the flesh. He called himself the “son of Adam” also known as the “son of Man” repeatedly. I believe He did this to prove to Satan He was legally here on the earth. I counted 81 verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John with this phrase “Son of Man”. If you have read my other Bible lessons, you already know that “Adam” and “man” are the same Hebrew word (H120). Jesus was declaring His humanity by calling himself the son of Adam. Many Bible teachers have declared that this child born in Revelation 12 is this Bethlehem only naturally born male child named Jesus. Therefore, the woman in Revelation 12 MUST be Mary His natural physical mother.
Remember by Jesus’ own mouth “that which is born of flesh (Mary) is flesh (baby Jesus)”. But also remember what we read in lesson 1 of the series. We answered the question “When did these Revelation 12 events occur?” According to Revelation 4:1, everything that happens after this verse is a future tense prophetical statement. That means it had not occurred at the time this book was written by John. That statement alone still makes it impossible for this child being birthed to be the natural baby Jesus. Uh, oh? Who then can it be? Could this Son in Revelation 12 be the “first born” Son of God that we just learned about Romans 8:29? It is entirely possible that this is what God could be revealing to us. There will be more scriptures coming to help you see this as a very real possibility for the identity of the male child in Revelation 12.
I need to conclude this Virgin Mary suspect study. I believe that what we should take away from this discussion is this; if this child in Rev 12 is baby Jesus the only begotten natural male child of God that was born to die on a cross, then he had to be born of a natural woman named Mary. This means the woman cannot represent natural Israel as many other teachers have claimed. We would also need to look at every other verse in chapter 12 of Revelation and determine how natural Mary could fit in with those given dependent facts. I believe that we can immediately see that Mary does not fit with any of the other detailed descriptive qualities of the woman in Revelation 12, other than being a woman and being pregnant with a natural male child and that is just a small part of the whole picture.
CAN THE CHILD BE THE FIRSTBORN SON OF GOD?
Next, we have to determine if the child is the risen from the dead Lord Jesus. The Bible teaches us that Jesus was born from above after He was raised from the dead. Jesus is called the firstborn from the dead (Col 1:18, Romans 8:29). Jesus himself taught that a man must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God (John 3:3). Knowing that Jesus was the only naturally born Son of God now, He must have included Himself into that John 3:3 requirement statement. If Jesus did not include himself into that statement, he would be denying his physical humanity quality as being a natural Son of Adam.
Jesus being God in the flesh is therefore, committed to abide by His own statement of truth since it is impossible for God to lie. Jesus said a man must be born again or He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. We all know that Jesus died on a cross, and his natural body was buried in a tomb for 3 days and 3 nights. We also should know that Jesus gave up His Spirit on the cross when He died (John 19:30). But what happened to His Spirit while His body was in the tomb? Jesus answered this question in Matthew 12:40. He said, “As Jonah was 3 days in the belly of the fish, the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for 3 days and 3 nights”. That was my paraphrase, but the concept was accurately stated. Therefore, the Spirit of Jesus had to go to hell. Now ask the question how did the Spirit of Jesus come out of this underworld dimension of the dead? According to what we are learning Jesus became the “first born” to be taken out of that separated spiritual dimension of the dead. Therefore, we have to conclude that Jesus was the very first spiritual birth to be the first spirit that was born again from the dead.
I believe that this is a Bible fact. That any man in heaven must have been spiritually born again, in order to get into heaven and out of going to hell. What this does is amazing. This was God’s way of eliminating entrance into heaven for those that did not meet His new requirement for Kingdom entrance, including Satan. Colossians 1:18 gives us the reason why Jesus was spiritually born again FIRST. God says this occurred “in order to give Him (Jesus) preeminence over ALL other spirit beings” This made Him the “Head” of a new spiritual family. We in the church then become His body, and the bride of His new family. Every spiritual being has become secondary beneath Him. Preeminence is the Greek word G4409 that means “first in rank or order”. The firstborn throughout the Bible was given a special place of inheritance in a family but this is a different subject that cannot be fully taught today.
I know this is a difficult new subject, but I believe that it is one that has great spiritual significance if we can see it. If the child is a spiritual child in Revelation 12, like I believe he is, then the woman giving birth has to be a spiritual mother and a spiritual wife. The Bible is complicated and there are many potential interpretations, but still only one truth. Let us therefore strive to understand the truth.
So, can a spiritual woman have spiritual children? Of course, she can and Jesus claimed she could. Here is a scriptural precedence for that statement:
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Jesus in this verse is again called the first born (begotten) from the dead. This was obviously a spiritual birth and not His natural birth, yes? Notice that this verse implies that this birth occurred at His resurrection from the dead. Who then was His spiritual mother that gave birth to the Head of the Church? If Jesus was the first spiritually re-born man, then that demands by logical deduction, the pre-existence of a mature spiritual mother. That which is born of spirit is spirit, Jesus taught us! Some have tried to conclude that the woman in Revelation is the Spirit of God. But I have bad news for these people, God is not a female woman in the Bible. Nor, have I found in the Bible where God gives birth as a female? I believe that as the Bible states the woman originates from the side of a male and she is the one that gives birth to children. We find this pattern in Adam and Eve in Genesis 2 as well as Jesus on the cross when stabbed in His side to pour out His blood on the ground for His church bride.
There is a very strong implication when thinking about Jesus being the firstborn from the dead. As I have stated there must be a spiritual woman that existed, prior to His resurrection in order to provide this spiritual birth from the dead. This also reveals to us that this same spiritual woman must have existed prior to the new birth of the church another spiritual bride. This implied spiritual woman must be mature enough to give birth to spiritual children. Are we following this logic? These are all awesome statements of truth. So, who is this spiritual woman that is mature enough to give birth to a risen Lord Jesus Christ? Here is another verse that God gives us in Romans that sheds more light on the subject. I mentioned this verse earlier and we should have already read it, but we will go over it again for more study:
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Again, we see Jesus called the firstborn, but this time it says very clearly that there is an implied second born, a third born and on and on we go. God actually claims in this verse that Jesus has many spiritual brothers and sisters. What we see is another implied reference to a spiritual woman that gives birth to these spiritual siblings. This is such an important concept to fully grasp and understand. Now let us figure out who this mature spiritual woman is that gave birth to all of these newborn spiritual babies and children:
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
This of course is a scripture that has been bypassed and overlooked for lack of understanding for a very long time. We can see that this verse was written to and is speaking about the church directly. Therefore, we can conclude that the church are the inferred children in this verse that must be the many brothers of Christ. It also indirectly implies that the same mother that birthed the church must have birthed Jesus our Big Brother! I pray that we understand, that when we were born again it was a spiritual birth and not another natural birth process. Jesus addressed this topic very clearly in John 3 when a natural man asks Him how to go back into his natural mother’s womb to be born again. If we apply the logic that only spirit beings can have spiritual babies, then the woman mentioned here in Galatians 4, this Jerusalem Above has to be a mature existing spiritual woman, that gives birth to only new spirits.
We can also see the location of this woman as being somewhere above. Meaning she is not the earthly Jerusalem or any other physical natural location on our planet. The Greek word translated as “above” is G503 and means “on top” or “above”. It is the exact same word used by Jesus to describe where He was from in John 8:23. In this verse Jesus speaking to the Jewish leaders said, “You are from beneath but, I am from above” and then he continued by saying “you are from this world, I am not from this world”. This would clearly define this “above” to be the third heaven where God’s throne is located.
Now some might try to conclude that this “above” is the New Jerusalem, but it cannot be. You see I haven’t taught you directly yet, but I believe the church is the New Jerusalem. By using basic logic, a mother has to exist prior to having her children. And a woman does not give birth to herself. If Jesus was the firstborn from the dead, His spiritual mother had to exist prior to any new spiritual births. If the church is the New Jerusalem like I believe she is, then there is no way she could be the mother of Jesus and herself. Also, I do not believe that the New Jerusalem existed until the New Covenant came into being. Also, remember that this woman New Jerusalem is said to be the covenant wife of the LAMB (Jesus) in Revelation 21:2. This also must align with the truth that this Lamb was slain and is now risen/born from the dead. That describes this wife to be the church and the church did not exist in marriage covenant with Jesus before Jesus was raised from the dead.
I recommend that you go and read the entire chapter of Galatians 4. When we do this, we begin to see that there are two different Jerusalems being contrasted and compared. One is said to be a type of Hagar and she is called the “earthly Jerusalem” or the “Jerusalem that now is (physically on the earth)”. The Jerusalem that now is on the earth could also be called the “Jerusalem that is beneath” using the understanding of John 8:23. Beneath can further be implied by the opposite term of “above” also. This is just a basic law of interpretation that is called the “Law of Antithesis Truth”. If there is an above, there must be an unstated or implied “below or beneath”. It is also very important to remember that this other “Jerusalem from above” was called a type of Sarah. Both of these women were Abraham’s wives, and I don’t have time to explain that in depth. But we will continue with an overview of the Genesis account written for us by God.
The earthly Jerusalem, we are told is Israel and the Old Covenant (Gal 4:24) is represented by “Hagar” the Egyptian (Gen 25:12) bond slave. God informs us in Genesis 16:3 that Hagar is the much younger woman and a new wife given to Abraham by Sarah his much older barren wife. God gives us a very important confirming connection to this Egyptian Hagar being Earthly Jerusalem in Revelation 11:8 where He informs us this “great city” is spiritually called “Egypt”. Wow, I don’t have time to teach that either. Abraham was 86 years old when Hagar gave birth to Ishmael. This was 14 years before Sarah conceived and gave birth to Isaac. That is important to understand. Remember Jacob contracted with his father-in-law for 7 years of labor to earn his wife that he loved. But he had to work 14 years for this first love, his wife Rachel (Gen 39). His first wife Leah was given to him by trickery after his fulfillment of the 7 years. Then he had to work 7 more years for the one that he really wanted. I don’t have time to teach about that either. Just realize that 14 years, connects these stories.
Sarah represents the spiritual Jerusalem from above in Galatians 4. We are told that she is a “freewoman” not under the bondage of “law” of Jehovah. That is very important, and I do not have time to teach that either. We are taught by God in Genesis 21 that Sarah is the much older “barren woman” who eventually gives birth to Isaac when Abraham was 100 years old. In this Genesis story of Abraham, Sarah was 90 years old when she had her first child. Notice that Isaac is called the promised son in both Genesis and Galatians. That is a type and a pattern of spiritual things to come. That birth was truly a miraculous sign from God for the spiritual births that the barren woman Heavenly Jerusalem Above was going to produce after Jesus arose from the dead. Jesus we are taught is implied to be the promised spiritual birth. We can read this in Galatians 3 when we are told God did not speak to Abraham of “seeds” many but “seed” singular being Jesus Christ. Therefore, Jesus was the promised Seed to come naturally and spiritually speaking.
We can understand that Ishmael was around 14 years old when Isaac was born. Sarah (the type of the Jerusalem Above) is the mature woman that has been alive for much longer than Hagar. Therefore, Sarah was in Covenant marriage longer with Abraham (a type of God) than Hagar (the Earthly Jerusalem) was with Abraham (a type of God) (Jer 31:32). These are all valid allegorical types and patterns that I know are difficult to grasp at first.
God calls this real Genesis account of Abraham, Sarah and Hagar an allegorical story according to Galatians 4:24. An allegory is nothing but a true natural story of real people doing real things. But these natural story truths teach us far greater parallel spiritual truths that cannot be seen or observed with physical senses or natural reasoning. In fact, if God had not told us that this Genesis story was an allegory in Galatians 4, I do not believe that anyone would have understood it to teach anything greater than what historically occurred in the natural. In fact, I believe Jesus literally gave Paul this allegory personally in a vision, otherwise Paul would not have been able to write about it.
In a real allegory the events stay the same in the identical order and the characters in the story are repeated as similar characters, but the names of the participants change in the spiritual realm. In Galatians 4 we are given the natural women’s names Hagar and Sarah to be the spiritual names “Earthly Jerusalem” and “Jerusalem Above” respectfully. We are not directly informed in Galatians but the husband in these two covenants was Abraham, and he must represent the Father God in Heaven for these two women. We know this because we are told in Galatians 4:24 that this allegorical information represents the descriptions of two covenants. A covenant is a marriage, and a marriage is a covenant by God’s design (Mal 2:14).
Wow, two covenants is where God gets us even deeper. Most Christians assume and are wrong that these covenants are the Old Covenant and the New Covenant because that is the only two covenants that they have ever heard of. But that is impossible because it would fail the allegory litmus test description. Hagar is the younger wife, and she represents the second marriage covenant with Abraham. Therefore, Sarah the older barren wife had to be the first covenant with Abraham. Sarah could not be the New Covenant because the word “new”, dictates a more recent covenant than the old! Right?
We also need to realize that the New Covenant is with the risen from the dead Lord Jesus (first born again) and not with Father God that natural Israel was in. Here in Galatians God is speaking of these two covenants as being between Him as Jehovah God and 2 women. We learn from reading Romans 7:4 that natural Jews are legally freed from their covenant marriage with Jehovah because Jesus died on the cross. Then God says they (those Old Covenant People) are now legally freed from legal bondage under the law, to be legally remarried in the New Covenant with the risen from the dead, Lord Jesus. Notice this New Covenant marriage relationship is with the riser Son and not Jehovah the Father God. Wow, I don’t have time to teach that fully either.
We are getting so very deep here, but please understand this is important. This Heavenly Jerusalem (Sarah) represents a covenant that pre-existed with the angels being in covenant with God the Father (Jehovah) prior to the covenant that God (Jehovah) made with natural Israel (Egypt). Not a lot of people understand it yet, but the angels were created a long time before humans. We are not informed exactly how long before, but we know from reading Job 38:7 that the angels sang for joy at the creation events described in Genesis 1 for our current world.
I guess I will throw you another deep subject curve to consider since I already mentioned it. In Genesis 39 we read about Jacob (a type of God and Jesus) working 7 years for a wife that he did not want. He then was forced to work another 7 years for the wife that his heart was set on having. Well, I believe the second wife in this story is an allegorical type for God working for His desired church bride. I believe that God first worked 7000 years for the first wife Leah who was a type of the Jerusalem Above containing all of the angels. But, when sin was found in His covenanted wife, Lucifer and 1/3 of the angles that fell with him, that presented God with a major problem. God of course already had the solution by working just 7000 more years for us in the church. We are going to be a people called His wife that will be so eternally glad to be saved from going to hell that we will never desire to be like Satan and try to exalt ourselves above anyone. Ok, that was more new Bible information that is profound. It also explains creation more clearly. I believe in the Gap Theory of Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 being a major catastrophic destruction of a previous world ruled by Lucifer. I don’t have time to teach this truth either. But you can read more about it in the series of lessons called “The World that Was”.
What am I teaching? I would recommend that you go and read the series of lessons on this website called “Understanding the Spiritual Family of God”. What God reveals in the Bible is a truth that there are 3 stated divine covenants. The first “God to creation covenant” was between Him being in a relation with His angels. We already have learned that this wife had no LAWs or rules to be in bondage to. This was revealed in the type of Abraham with Sarah (Gal 4). The second “God to creation covenant” was a covenant between God and natural Israel being a type of Abraham with Hagar. We already know from Galatians 4 that His 2nd wife was in bondage to the LAW. That is very important. And the third “God to creation covenant” that we call the “New Covenant” was the covenant between NOT Jehovah but the risen firstborn from the dead the LORD Jesus Christ to the church. Remember that Jesus is in covenant with the New Jerusalem which is His Church.
Let’s study this Jerusalem that is above a little more to confirm what has been said. Read this verse in Hebrews carefully and we can see another reference to this identical spiritual woman in Hebrews that was given to be a type of Sarah in the Genesis allegory of Galatians 4:
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
We can clearly see that this city Jerusalem is said to be the city of the living God whois a Spirit (John 4:24). I believe that this is the current location of heaven where God has His spiritual throne. This city as it says in this verse is comprised of an innumerable company of angels. These were the only spiritual beings in the city prior to Jesus’ resurrection.
I want to also say that I believe this verse could have been translated more accurately. The Greek word G4334 that was translated as “come unto” could have been translated “came from”. It is translated as “came” more than any other word in the N.T. This translation would be more in line with what we read in Galatians 4 as her being our mother. When a child is born to a woman, it should be obvious that the child came from her body, even though the child was not her body. The same can be said about us being born from this spiritual city above. We would have “come from” the Heavenly Jerusalem being spiritually reborn from there.
Notice the reference to Mount Zion in this verse. Then back up in the context of this verse to read in verse 18 concerning another mountain not named. This mountain is implied to be Mt Sinai that we read about in Galatians 4:24. In Hebrews 12:18 God says Mt Sinai can be touched physically but it is implied that the Mt Zion in Hebrews 12:22 is not touchable using our current physical body or senses. I think this is all amazing information to learn. What we see are patterns being given to us of a spiritual mountain to a spiritual city, being contrasted with a natural mountain to a natural city. This spiritual location we are told is a place with a lot of angels in it. It is beginning to make sense to us I hope and pray.
Think about where the angels were in Job 38 when they sang for joy witnessing what I believe was the re-creation of our physical world. If the earth was un-inhabitable as Genesis 1:2 states, then all of the beings that were there on earth previously have now been taken up into heaven and are now singing for joy to see their previous earth being restored. Like I said before I believe that this is the first wife that God did not really want. I believe that it is this heavenly city that full of angels that is called the spiritual mother of Jesus and the church. She had to be barren like Sarah was with no children for literally thousands of years. Wow, this is so very deep.
From the information that is presented, we understand that this heavenly woman existed a long time before the earthly Jerusalem ever existed. At Jesus’ physical only begotten birth in Bethlehem, the New Jerusalem could not exist so we know that this woman in Revelation 12 cannot be either of these two Jerusalem’s. Here again are the cities that we have just furthered identified and confirmed:
- The Earthly Jerusalem (Gal 4:25)
- The Heavenly Jerusalem (Gal 4:26, Heb 12:22)
- The New Jerusalem (Rev 3:12, Rev 21:2)
So, what we have is the clear reference in the Bible to three completely different cities, all named Jerusalem and all three in a covenant relationship with God at some point in time. I know this is complicated and totally new to most of you, but you don’t know everything that you need to yet and I can’t teach you everything that I know all at once. What we need to realize is that there is a spiritual woman called the heavenly Jerusalem that has given birth to a spiritual Son named the Riser LORD JESUS and His sibling and wife a daughter called the New Jerusalem, and both of these women are not related to the earthly Jerusalem covenant.
The next thing that we should realize is that, if one spiritual woman (the Heavenly Jerusalem) can have children, then another spiritual woman (New Jerusalem) can also have children. This is in fact a very significant statement to consider. If the woman in Revelation 12 gives birth to a spiritual child, she has to be a spiritual woman. The natural nation of Israel (Earthly Jerusalem) is a natural woman and not a spiritual woman and cannot give birth spiritually. However, I believe that the natural nation of Israel represents a natural pattern for the church a spiritual woman in a New Covenant with the risen Jesus Christ. I know I need to discuss my third suspect possibility for the child next. This child in Revelation 12 could still be the Spirit of God, but why would it be necessary for the Holy Spirit of God to be born from a new spiritual mother? That is a very interesting question to consider.
IS THE CHILD THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST BEING BIRTHED?
Here we go again with a potentially brand new and never heard of revelation from the LORD for many Christians. I have recently updated this Bible lesson to include this section because it was not addressed previously. This information will probably be some of the most important information in the entire series. I do request that you please pray to allow the Holy Spirit to open your spiritual eyes to see the truth and receive it. But receive it only if the Holy Spirit on the inside of you confirms it to be the truth. Let’s go back to Revelation 12:2 and learn more of what we have missed:
Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth (G5605), and pained to be delivered.
We talked about this verse earlier in the lesson. But it is now time to go into it in greater detail. I would like to say that this verse describes natural childbirth very well. I was present when my son was born. What my wife went though was certainly not a pleasant experience. Anyone that has experienced giving birth, should know it is a painful process without receiving any drugs to block the pain. This process was a resulting part of the curse placed upon the woman in Genesis 3:16 for sin entering into the world. This curse caused every woman to experience great pain during childbirth. I believe this physical birthing pain is symbolically representative of the spiritual birthing process, as we will very soon observe.
The Greek word G5605 translated as “travailing in birth” literally means to experience the pains of giving birth. It is only found in two chapters in the entire New Testament and that makes it very special to our study. I believe that God specifically chose to limit the scope usage of this Greek word in the text, to provide us clues to the identity of the mother and the child. Does that make sense? If God used the word 1000 times and it described 100 different women, then that does not help us very much solve our mystery. But a narrowed usage is a gift that just keeps giving by God’s design. Where is the only other time this Greek word is used in the N.T.? If we search, we will find it is only used in Galatians chapter 4. Wow, we have been in this chapter before, haven’t we? Do you believe that this is a coincidence? I definitely do not believe in God rolling dice. Everything in the Bible is there by design for a purpose to teach us. Let’s read the first occurrence:
Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth (G5605) again until Christ be formed in you,
This is truly amazing information to consider in the light of our discussion of the pregnant woman in chapter 12 of Revelation. Here we have a spiritual woman being inferred, a spiritual pregnancy, a spiritual birth experience as well as a spiritual child being brought forth. I mean WOW! Can this be true? Who wrote this book? We should know that it was the Holy Spirit using the Apostle Paul. Now, who was he writing it to? We should know it was the people in the Galatians church. Now, who is having the similar birth pain experience described again in Revelation 12? It is clearly the Apostle Paul. Who is the Apostle Paul? He is clearly one of the foundational leaders in the Christian Church. He can also be referred to as being a member in the larger Body of Christ also called the Bride of Christ. Ok, it appears that we are being led somewhere by the Holy Spirit.
Who is identified to be the child that the Man of God, is birthing inside of the people in Galatia? We are given a very specific named child called “Christ”. Who is Christ? Christ is the Greek word for Messiah in the Old Testament. Who is the Messiah? We should all know this is Jesus (Matthew 1:16). It appears that God is teaching us something that is very profound.
God is teaching us that Christ is being birthed inside of every believer. But this Christ is NOT the physical Jesus. Is it? No, that does not fit or make sense. Therefore, this reference to “Christ” must be His “Holy Spirit”. WOW! Let us confirm this with a verse:
Romans 8:9 – But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The Christ that is the child in Galatians is referred to as the Holy Spirit according to Paul in Roman 8:9. In this verse the Holy Spirit is called by 2 direct names. The first name being the “Spirit of God” and second name being the “Spirit of Christ”. We are also taught that both are the same Spirit that must be living on the inside of us. Wow, is this the Omnipotent Spirit of God? Can the Holy Spirit of CHrist be birthed inside someone through another human in the church travailing with great birth pains? According to Galatians 4:9 anyone in the Church can and do this.
I personally believe that this birthing pain and travailing is the Church’s work of prayer and intercession for someone that is lost or not able to receive the truth on their own ability to receive the truth. I believe this based upon Romans 8:26 where Paul says when we do not know how to pray as we should, the Spirit helps our weakness by interceding through us with our inarticulate groanings. Any woman that has given birth naturally has experienced at minimum groanings. I believe the spiritual birthing process for some individuals can be very similar. But that is another subject for another lesson. Let’s move to another key part of the child study by returning to a previous verse:
Rev 12:5 – And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
We have already discussed ruling with a rod of iron and that quick study led us to join the church to be the body of Jesus Christ that could potentially rule the nations with Him. This is my belief based upon what we have read. Since the Spirit of Christ appears to be birthed inside of every Christian. Therefore, if He rules with a rod of iron then He on the inside of us rules and we rule with Him. Remember the Spirit of Christ we learned that He was called the “Firstborn” from the dead and this makes Him the Head with preeminence over us all.
The LORD willing we will talk more about this child in a future lesson. But notice from the list of our three possible male children, there is only one that could fit with what we have learned in the Word of God.
We will stop this lesson here for now. I have given you a lot of new spiritual meaty spiritual concepts to chew on and consider. We have learned a significant amount of new information to consider. We should remember what Jesus said in John 3, “that which is born of spirit is spirit, and that which is born of flesh is flesh”. These were two radically different types of births. Being born upon the earth in the flesh is the first birth and being born from above in the spirit is the second.
Based upon this divine law, we know that only one mother and child example can match what we are seeing in Revelation 12. How do we know this? The pregnant woman in Revelation 12:1, suddenly appears in heaven, and therefore her child must also be a “Spirit”, to make Jesus’ words truthful. Mary never appeared in heaven pregnant. Nor has the natural nation of Israel ever appear in heaven to give birth to Christ. Please give this significant thought before you reject it, or try to explain it away.
Thank you very much for taking the time to read and study the Bible with us. We are very humble that we can be a blessing to so many people in the world. We love you all very much. Please study to show yourself approved a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth. Be a Berean type of Acts 17;11 Christian that is a more noble Christ follower. This church received new things with an open mind and then studied their Bibles daily to see if what was taught was what the Word of God actually said. This study effort will probably take reading this series many times and picking it apart into smaller chunks. This lesson series is certainly not an exhaustive complete word for word study. I am still learning new things everyday so these lessons may be changed to add this new information in the future. Please come back and study this again to check for updates. The version numbers at the top of each lesson show if they are updated. God Bless you richly until the next lesson.
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The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 3
(Ver 3.2) This is now the third part in an advanced series of Bible lessons on the subject of discovering the “True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12”. These lessons are intended for spiritually mature Christians with an open mind and a willing heart to dig deep, study and learn from the Bible. It is not for anyone with a closed mind believing they already understand the subject found in Revelation 12 fully. I love one quote that a man named Will Rogers said “We are all ignorant, just about different things”. This means that none of us knows everything, especially me. But, it is my desire and goal to learn and know more today, than I knew about God and His Word yesterday. I pray that this is your goal also. If you have not been reading this series from the beginning I would highly recommend that you go back and start with “Part 1“. We have covered a tremendous amount of new revelation that has been hidden by God in the Bible. We will not be able to repeat the previous lessons in today’s.
INTRODUCTION AND REVIEW
OK, in the last lesson, we talked about the identity of the symbolic moon found in Revelation 12 as being Satan. I believe this information was encoded (hidden) in the Bible by God’s design using some very intelligent techniques. One of these techniques for hiding information that has been used by God is the method of calling one person or spiritual entity by many different names, titles, symbols and descriptions. If you have ever studied the Bible you know that Satan is referred to as the serpent, the great dragon, the devil, Lucifer, Beelzebub, the father of lies, the ruler of darkness, the prince of darkness, the god of this world, the deceiver, the tempter, the thief, the accuser of the brethren, etc., and as we learned in the last Bible lesson the symbolic “moon”. That of course was not a complete list of Satan identifiers, but just an example of what is being taught. If you would like to see a more complete list of “Names, Titles, Symbols and Descriptions for Satan” you can click on that link and go there.
There are many reasons why I believe that God has concealed information in the Bible, but one of the main reasons is to allow Him to reveal the true meaning at the appointed time. Another great reason is to keep the information hidden from His enemy Satan. If God told Satan everything He had planned in a straightforward plain way of speaking it would allow Satan the ability to narrow his attempts to stop God’s plan on the earth. But, hiding the information provides us the blessing of finding it and Satan the opportunity to be surprised by him not knowing what to expect next from God.
For example, the Old Testament was full of the prophecies of the coming Messiah, but yet Satan didn’t understand them and neither did any of the Jews who kept the scrolls. Jesus went through the scriptures and began to reveal Himself in the O.T. to His disciples and to the apostle Paul only after He was risen from the dead (Luke 24:32, 45, Romans 16:25) . There are many reasons for this hiding of information. It also establishes a pattern of how God works with humans. It gives us notice that if He did it once, He can do it again if He so chooses. You might call this a part of God’s modus operandi.
God has given to us a huge book of divine information, which contains a countless number of prophetic scriptures and God can reveal them to us even now and I believe that is exactly what He is doing (Dan 12:4). I have quoted this verse in this series at least two times but it represents one of the foundational principles of truth that applies to us understanding the woman in Revelation 12 that is clothed with the sun, standing on the moon with a crown of 12 stars. This would be a good verse to memorize and perhaps that is God’s goal for repeating it:
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
I would like to review this verse from Romans again to place new emphasis on what it reveals to us. What we can see in this verse is a very powerful spiritual truth being revealed to us about God’s visible and perceivable creation. This verse proves there was intelligent design contained within all of the physical components of our universe. Nothing came into being by random chance or accident.
Every created natural entity has a design and a purpose to reveal something that is not yet understood by most humans. This verse claims that God created all these natural things in our visible world to reveal greater spiritual things that we need to understand to help us know about Him. By knowing these, God informs us that we will be able to understand even parts of His awesome omnipotent power and His divinely gracious Godhead. That is why it is important to note how created things like the sun, the moon and the stars fit by His design into the greater spiritual picture. By understanding these naturally created things God is revealing some very powerful spiritual truths to us. I just can’t say that enough.
In Revelation 12:1 we have been studying a descriptive picture or a symbolic woman with a specific purpose and design. For emphasis I believe that I should review these featured symbolic elements and what we have learned so far. This woman is said to have the following distinctive characteristics and features:
- A Woman (an unnamed female)
- Her head covered by a crown of 12 stars (emblem of victory in a contest)
- Her body clothed with the Sun (the Greater Light, Jesus Christ)
- Her feet standing on the moon (the lesser light, Satan)
- The location of the woman is said to be heaven
- Finally from Rev 4:1 we learned Rev 12 is a prophetical future view into events being described.
These are basic statements of revealed facts. They are all so very significant. We have discovered though study that the head of the woman is crowned with a symbol of victory from winning a contest like an Olympic event. We have discovered by study that the body (the church) is clothed with Jesus Christ who is the revealed symbolic Sun. We have discovered by study that the woman’s feet are standing on the ruler of the darkness, the moon, who is revealed to be Satan. We have discovered by study that this event occurs in the future during the coming soon tribulation period of 7 years of time. We have read numerous scriptures to back these explicit and implicit asserted truths that we cannot repeat here. Knowing this revelation and understanding it will now help us to clearly identify the woman. However, we will now go over some new verses that are recorded by God to confirm this information:
Psa 136:7 To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
Psa 136:8 The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
Psa 136:9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.
We can see that the Genesis 1 day 4 account of day 4 of creation is being repeated as a second witness of confirming truth here in the book of Psalms. This information verifies what we have already learned and provides greater emphasis to the importance of the information. The Sun rules the kingdom of the “day” and we are told that the moon and the stars rules the kingdom of the “night”. I like to provide at least two or three witnesses to every Bible truth so that you will know that I am not taking things out of context or just making stuff up as I go.
UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT MEANS
FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNDER HER FEET
Today, we need to explore this subject using a much deeper application to its position to the woman to help confirm the identity of the symbolic moon in Revelation 12 we know is called the ruler of darkness. We will do this from a different perspective to determine if we can establish precedence from the scripture for Satan to be declared under the feet of any woman? We will do this specifically by studying these women suspect candidates that could represent the woman in Revelation 12:
- The Church (the body and bride of Christ)
- Israel (the Old Covenant Wife of Jehovah)
- Mary (the virgin natural mother of Jesus).
We all know that the woman in Revelation 12 is said to have the moon under her feet. It must have been important to God to specifically mention these two symbols in this relationship. Technically we should know that by standing on the moon this is synonymous to the moon being under her feet? Let’s start by asking God what does it mean in your Word to have something or someone under your feet? Is there a figurative meaning to this expression that is important for our correct interpretation. I believe the answer is YES! I believe that any good Bible student has seen this in the Bible before and can probably teach this section of the lesson..
From my Bible research and study I believe that anything or anyone that is stated to be under someone’s feet in the Bible is a symbolic reference to them being lowered in position of order, power, rank or authority. Someone being under foot is a figurative sign or symbol of their defeat by the person that is standing in triumphant victory over the one underfoot. The person underfoot is certainly the implied enemy of the one standing upon them being conquered. For example, God told Joshua in the Old Testament, everywhere the sole of your foot shall tread, I have given to you (Joshua 1:3). To “tread on” literally means to walk over something or someone with your feet to be given their possessions.
We learn from this established Joshua principle that whatever God has already given to humans, they are required to fight and to possess including overcoming the enemies holding that land. This is an established spiritual law of faith. These were God’s ways of demonstrating to Joshua that he was going to be victorious over his enemies. It is clear to me that the natural nation of Israel had many natural enemies. This Old Covenant between Israel and Jehovah was a physical battle between natural physical forces being backed by opposing spiritual powers. It is also clear from reading just Joshua that natural Israel won their victories over most of their enemies by being led and obeying the voice of Jehovah. I believe this was a type and pattern for the church in the coming spiritual warfare in the New Covenant.
The spiritual enemy to the church is of course, Satan and I won’t go into every scripture that we could use to verify this. I believe that what God spoke to Joshua was a prophetic utterance that further applies to a pattern for us in the spiritual church to follow. What I will do now is give you some Biblical backing for “treading” on an enemy.
Psa 44:5 Through thee will we push down our enemies: through thy name will we tread them under that rise up against us.
Here we see a powerful prophetic principle given to us. This is a statement that can clearly be taken either naturally or spiritually. Symbolically speaking, God is referring to the enemies of the church being under our feet. It definitely also applies to the natural nation of Israel. I cannot see any application of this verse to Mary. If we can find this principle in the Bible, it will make the task of identifying the woman in Revelation 12 easier to confirm. Here is another interesting Old Testament scripture that must be related to Revelation 12:
Psa 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
Did you notice the references to an “adder” and a “dragon”? Do you see the symbolic parallels related to Revelation chapter 12? I don’t think there are very many dragons in the Bible directly named and said to be under someone’s feet. I believe that this verse is directly related scripture that further points us to the identity of the “moon” under her feet, as being the defeated Satan, also defined as the dragon and the old serpent in Revelation 12:9 and 20:2. As I ran references in the Bible looking for the principle of treading down I ran into verses like this one:
Job 40:12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
Maybe you recall how Satan was lifted up in pride in the Old Testament (Eze 28:7, Isa 14) and some of the statements that he is said to have made. God makes a prophetic declaration in these verses in Isaiah 14:11. God informs Satan that “His pomp will be brought down to the grave… and worms will be under and over him. That sounds like someone in a natural grave that humans walk over all the time. Notice the similarities found here in Job when God says that everyone that is proud will be brought low. Then it also speaks of the wicked being tread down (walked upon). I think these references apply to Satan.
It is interesting to note what God told Adam in Genesis 1. God gave Adam some specific instructions and here is one that is very relevant to our discussion:
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
We understand from this verse that God created the man to look like Him. God then turned His control of the earth over to His creation. God specifically says man has been given “dominion” over all the earth, and everything that moves on the earth. That is a very powerful bit of information for us to understand. It is also important that we know the Hebrew word translated as “dominion” has the following definition in the Strong’s:
A primitive root; to tread down, that is, subjugate; specifically to crumble off: – (come to, make to) have dominion, prevail against, reign, (bear, make to) rule, (-r, over), take.
Uh, oh! This Hebrew word has far reaching implications attached to it. It declares that man was intended to rule the earth. But, did you notice the word literally means “to tread down”. That is an active command for Adam to walk with his feet on every enemy to demonstrate their defeat. This Hebrew word clearly means to “prevail against” an enemy.
We must realize that God intentionally and prophetically declares the end from the beginning in this statement (Isa 46:10). God is saying in Isaiah that the end will be like I intended it to be from the beginning. I believe that is why we are learning about this woman in Revelation standing on the defeated moon object.
Adam was given charge over the earth and the instructions to defeat every enemy that came against him. God knew there was coning an enemy to defeat. But, instead Adam let Satan into our world and Satan became the god of our world system (2 Cor 4:4).
If we look at verse 28 in Genesis 1 God repeats His instructions to the man, but this time the man is told to “subdue”. This Hebrew word again means to “tread down”. In other words walk on. The word literally means to conquer and to bring into subjection every enemy. By placing someone underfoot they have been clearly defeated. These are all historical and prophetic words of a warfare that should have occurred 6000 years ago but is waiting to be fulfilled.
I believe that the church will be used by God to demonstrate Satan’s defeat. You see the man was created on the last part of the 6th day of creation. If you understand how the days of creation are prophetic this would indicate that man will again become spiritually mature at the end of the 6th day or near the end of the 6000 year time period that God has given humans to have dominion. This would also mean that what God intended for the man to do this on Day 1 but since the first Adam failed, God introduced the second Adam and I believe will use His bride to soon make this happen. This must occur very soon before the end of the 6000 years (Day 6).
I believe we are this phase of God’s plan now with it occurring at the end of the Church age. God speaks of this by declaring us to be the victorious one (1 Cor 15:57). Victory was the way that God intended it to be in the beginning and this is the way that it will be at the end of human history. I believe that the church will go out victorious with Satan under our feet. But, let us look for and confirm all of this in the Bible.
Let us continue now by looking at what Jesus says to the church right before He ascends into heaven. At this point and time Jesus was already crucified, and after 3 days arose to live forever more. Here in Luke we see some instructions being given to someone. We must ask this question “were these instructions given to us, the church or just the natural Jew?” In the book of Luke Jesus makes this amazing statement:
Luk 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
In this verse, I believe that God is talking to the future saved church who began with all Jewish men about their spiritual enemy. I know the statement is made to the group of Jewish men that were sent out in pairs to cast out devils and healed the sick. But if you read the context of this statement you will find clues that indicate we in the church are also included in this promise. For example, in verse 20 Jesus said “don’t rejoice because spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Wow that has to be saved Christians. We know this from studying the Book of Revelation and reading the scriptures about the book of life in heaven (Rev 3:5, Rev 17:8, Rev 20:17). This book of life contains all of the living and those whose names are not found written are forever declared dead and this is the second death. Wow!
Jesus is referring to a spiritual enemy and not a fleshly, carnal or natural enemy. We know this very clearly because Jesus said “spirits are subject to them”.. In this verse, Jesus clearly delegates His authority from His victory on the cross to the church. But, did you also notice the referenced connection to an enemy symbolically called a “serpent”?
Please understand that this serpent is defined to be Satan in our study chapter of Revelation 12. Three times in Revelation 12 Satan is called by the name of the serpent. This Greek word G3789 is translated as “serpent” in 14 New Testament verses including Luke and Revelation. That makes them related by God’s choice. Where was “the serpent” suppose to be according to Jesus our Lord and Savior? We are informed that this symbolic evil being is intended to be under the feet of the church, yes? Tread on means to put under your feet and walk on just as God instructed Joshua and commanded Adam to do.
This is a descriptive symbolic representation of where Satan (the serpent Rev 12:9) is to be in relation to where the church is suppose to be. It is not coincidental or by accident that the identity of the serpent is clearly given to us in Revelation 12:9. But, where does this statement and concept first originate in the Bible? The “serpent” is found in the Bible for the very first direct reference in Genesis chapter 3 verse 1 before Adam and Eve sinned. Satan deceives the woman. Uh oh, here we go with a woman. Could this be another divine connection of prophecy being made? After Adam and Eve sinned God comes on the scene of the garden and speaks the following words directly to the serpent, who we know from Revelation 12:9 is Satan:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
I am going to challenged here, because the translators made a huge mistake. But I’ll attempt to explain it and hopefully you will understand it. God is speaking to Satan, the ancient serpent. Therefore, we know who at least one of the primary subjects or nouns in the verse represents. God says to Satan “I will put enmity between thee…” and let me stop right there. What is enmity? It means hatred, it is an emotional status between two enemies! It seems to indicate an implied confrontation or even an assumed warfare.
How is this going so far? Now God reveals the other primary subject or noun in the verse and He calls this one “the woman”. Let’s stop there again and figure out which woman. Since there was only one physical woman on the planet, was it Eve or was this woman a prophetic statement of a different spiritual woman to come? Since at no time in scriptures do we ever see that the physical Eve crushed the head of Satan, I feel we can rule out this natural woman Eve as being the woman that God is referring to.
Many have tried to claim that this woman is Israel who gives birth to Jesus and that is certainly one possibility for interpretation. But we really need scriptural evidence to confirm this interpretation. Since we are studying a woman in Revelation 12 and there are verses that we have not learned yet, I have eliminated this prophesied woman to be Israel. Therefore, I am convinced that this Genesis 3 woman is a prophetic statement concerning the church and I will tell you why soon.
Then God seems to change the subject focus off of the woman and Satan in Genesis 3, and He says “between your (Satan) seed and her (a woman’s) seed”. Here we have the first reference in the Bible to “the seed of the woman“. This of course is an interesting and complex concept. But, what we need to determine is, according to the Bible, what is a “seed”? If you would like to read the series on this subject in depth you can go to “Understanding Seeds“.
There are many different definition of seed given to us in the Bible, from natural seeds found in fruits and vegetables that you plant into the ground, all the way to the sperm in a male. Then, children are also called seeds in the Bible. These are all examples, of natural seeds. But, there are also spiritual seeds in the Bible and if this is a prophetic reference to a spiritual woman, I would logically claim that “her seed” is a spiritual reference also.
So what are spiritual seeds? Jesus tells us in the Gospels that the sower, sows the word of God (Mk 4:14). We can learn from this statement that the seeds that the sower was sowing were God’s Words. These are spiritual seeds that are planted into the hearts of men (Mat 13:19). These seeds are either fruitful or they die or get eaten by birds (symbolic devils) or choked out by the enemy’s seeds (weeds which are symbolic words from Satan) because the hearer did not understand them.
There are multiple parables in the gospels about seeds, gardens and harvests that all apply to the spiritual realities that I am referring to and I will not attempt to include these in order to keep this lesson as short as possible. If nothing else you should have learned that there are many possibilities for what the seed of the woman could be and we could apply the principle of Satan’s seed being his words that are attempting to overrule God’s Word to eliminate spiritual fruit and salvation from humans. That is at least one valid and good interpretation for what we are studying in Revelation 12 and Genesis 3. But, maybe you are like me and have heard it taught for years that the “seed of the woman” is Jesus Christ and He is the one to bruise the head of the serpent on the cross. That is a common misinterpretation of God’s word and I will attempt to explain why I say this.
So here is where I may lose some readers, the next statement in Genesis 3:15 is the part of the prophecy that I believe was mistranslated by two little words. This is what the King James Bible says “it shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel. The first word is the word “it” and this is a Hebrew word that is often times translated as “she” or “her”. In fact if you look back at Genesis 3:12, Adam’s response to God’s question is for him to call his wife by this word and it is translated as “she”. In this verse it is translated “the woman that you gave me, she (H1931) did give me of the tree and I did eat…” For some reason the translation was changed to the word “it” instead of the word “her” for verse 15.
Now the last part of verse 15 says “and you shall bruise his heel”. That is very interesting because a male child is never referenced in this verse anywhere. However I believe that in verse 15 the translators thought (assumed) God was talking about a prophetic statement of Jesus Christ so they changed the verse to reflect the male gender of Jesus to be the one whose heel was to be bruised. This reflected in the term “his heel”. From what I could see by studying, there was no Hebrew word for “his” included in the verse so it was also added for the assumed clarity by the translators. However, if we change the verse to what I consider to be a more correct translation it would read like this:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman (Church), and between thy seed (words) and her seed (words); she (H1931) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise her heel.
Right now this is just a minor technicality, but I believe based upon more scriptures that I will show you it will become very significant. Remember this, Jesus told His church to walk on serpents. Jesus knowing Genesis 3 very well selected the symbolic name for Satan (serpent) to give them the “authority” to tread on him. Therefore, Jesus knows and understand who Satan represents. Right there ought to tell us plainly that Jesus did not already do it! Jesus would have never delegated something that He had already accomplished and completed.
Notice in Luke 10:19 how God has give to us all of the same nouns and verbs directly and indirectly that were found in Genesis 3:15. I believe there is an implied “enmity” between two opposing parties. One is the person (implied woman called the church) that is to conquer her enemy Satan and his demons. Therefore we have the serpent, the church’s feet, and Jesus’ instruction (words) given to her (the church) to walk with her feet (including her heels) on Satan. I know some of these are indirect references yet they are there if you can see them. Let me give you another valuable scripture found in the New Testament that will shed significant additional light on the subject. In the book Romans, God makes this statement that is truly another outstanding prophecy:
Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Again we have the primary subjects and nouns including verbs found in Genesis 3:15 and Luke 10:19, but using slightly different terminology and perspectives. We see God speaking to the Church, the bride of Christ a spiritual woman saying to her that He (God) will bruise Satan (the serpent) under her (our) feet (heel) very soon. You see there is a major problem if Jesus has already put Satan under His feet. Why would God still need to crush Satan’s head again using the church’s feet later in the future tense?
God gave Paul the book of Roman’s many years after the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and at the time of this writing, according to the inspired Word of God the bruising of the serpent’s head had not yet occurred. Did you also notice the very parallel specific term “bruise” in Romans 15:20? Isn’t that exactly what God said would happen to the serpent in Genesis 3:15? Again, we can see a spiritual woman, her feet and Satan the serpent being bruised. All of this is mentioned in relation to a pending future action that was to soon occur. We can see in God’s timetable that the time of this crushing of the serpent’s head has to occur very soon. From prophetic words that we studied in Genesis 1, we can see that the church age only lasts two days, or 2000 years. So if it is going to happen it has to happen very, very soon. Here is one more verse that I will end this lesson with. In this verse we again see the pending status of God’s enemies:
Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Here we have another verse that states Satan, the enemy of God is not yet completely under the feet of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is now seated at the right of the Father and He waits for His enemy to be made His footstool. A footstool is a place you rest your feet, yes? If the church is the body of Christ (1 Cor 12:27), where are Jesus’ feet right now? I believe that we are the feet of Jesus walking on the earth and Jesus is now seated in heaven waiting for the God of Peace to bruise Satan under our feet.
How is the church supposed to do this? Read Ephesians 6:13-18 for God’s clue to how this bruising will soon occur. We will find in these verses God’s command to the church to be clothed with the whole armor of God. What was included in this armor? There are two main parts of the armor that I believe are the most important parts for our current study.
The first armor necessary for victory over Satan is found in Ephesians 6:15 where the church’s feet should be shod with preparation of the gospel of peace. Wow, isn’t that interesting? Wasn’t it the God of Peace that was going to bruise Satan under our feet shortly? Then notice and learn the Greek word G5265 translated as “shod”. This word literally means to bind on sandals under your feet. Wow again. Can we put on and tie God’s sandals on our feet so that we can walk on Satan? It appears to me that we can.
The next armor piece that I want focus upon and include here is the Sword of the Spirit found in verse 17. We are told that this is the Word of God. Wow again. Isn’t that the Seed of God? Doesn’t that sound familiar between our two enemies found in Genesis 3:15? God said I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between her seed and your seed. Now in Revelation 12 we have a woman clothed with the Sun (the armor of light) with the moon (Satan) under her feet. Remember what God said in Romans 13:12? God said to cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Wow, wow, wow!
I believe it is time to demonstrate the defeat of Satan under the feet of the spiritual woman. So what I have attempted to do today is to demonstrate scriptural precedence that establishes a woman that has Satan under her feet. By establishing this in the Bible it helps us to better understand the woman in Revelation 12. The woman is clothed with Jesus Christ and has Satan defeated under her feet. Who else can it be? I have not found any witnesses to these truths being Mary or the natural nation of Israel. So far it appears to only fit the church accurately.
Thanks for taking the time to study the Word of God. If you would like to continue reading this series of lessons you can continue with “Part 4“.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 2
(Ver 2.9) This is Part 2 in a series of advanced Bible lessons on the essential subject of knowing and understanding “The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12”. In the last lesson on this subject, we were introduced to several potentially new Biblical ideas and concepts. One was the revelation of God’s usage of “dependent truths” in the Bible This is where understanding one truth is completely dependent upon understanding one or more associated truths. This could also be viewed as a type of parent truth related to their child truths. Without first understanding the identity of the parent truth the children truth is not easily found or understood. We learned this was a type of inherited or passed down association of attributes from one generation to the next. I believe in the concept of finding truth as learning from a paradigm of increasing layers of building blocks of truth. The foundational layer of truth are the basic fundamental blocks that must be acquired and laid down, in order to build (grow) higher layers of more complex truths. We will never understand the top layers of complex (meat) truths without first building up the essential elementary (milk) layers first. That is what is meant by the label “Dependent Truth Relationships”. The definition of the word “dependent” simply means something that is “determined”, “influenced” or controlled by something else. Hopefully that brings us clarity to why there are so many different theories to who the woman in Revelation 12 represents.
A common error of many interpretations of the identity of the “Woman” in Revelation 12 is based upon a lack of first identifying the basic fundamental truths that are necessary for us to understand the identity of the higher level dependent truths. These basics greatly change and influence our way of thinking to see things we had never seen before. By not first understanding the very basic symbolic truths of what she is wearing, why she is wearing this, what she is standing upon, why she is standing upon it, what she is crowned with and what she is doing we will not understand correctly her identified name. However, by understanding the correct meanings of these symbols, we can easily eliminate who she cannot represent which is helpful to change our focus upon who she actually must be.
Therefore we used this concept to begin to learn listing the main featured symbols associated with the woman. We then began our search for these symbols using the crown of 12 stars from three perspectives. These were the the number 12, the stars and the crown. We then moved on to the most important symbol to identify the symbolic “Sun” as being the Lord Jesus Christ. We learned the physical sun as being the closest star to our planet earth as well as the primary natural source of warmth, light and life. We then used these natural qualities relate to spiritual Jesus. There are an overwhelming number of confirming verses in both the Old Testament and the New Testament that called and described Jesus to be our spiritual Sun. Sometimes He was called “the Sun of Righteousness”, the “Day Star”, “the Bright Morning Star”, the “Light” of the world and other similar descriptions, but all of these were synonymous terms for the sun.
The first lesson ended with verses confirming how we (the Church) are instructed by God to be clothed with “Christ Jesus”. There are other verses that we did not go over that further this claim. For example, without this spiritual clothing of Jesus we are spiritually uncovered and naked and could be viewed in an open state of shame (sin). One great verse like this is found in 2 Corinthians 5:3. I recommend that you go and study this part of the discussion for yourself. What is essential to know beyond the identity of the Sun, is to next understand why the woman must be clothed with this symbol. God could have selected and described the Sun’s relationship to the woman to be many things. But, He chose to select Him to be clothing.
Let us reverse two of the main symbols. How would the viewpoint meaning change if the woman was standing on the sun and clothed with the moon? As we gather knowledge on this subject we will begin to see how that change would cause the woman to be a completely different person. In fact I believe Satan would love this woman and not be in a war with her if she was standing upon the Sun. Remember what Lucifer said in Isaiah 14:13? He said “I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God”. This statement contains many of the same elements found in Revelation 12:1. For example, the mention of a throne implies a crown. The mention of stars is a direct comparison and we know our sun is just the closest star. The location in heaven is the exact same place where this woman in Revelation 12 appears in verse 1. Finally the term “above” is the identical concept of “standing on”. We know the woman in Revelation 12 is “above” the moon. Therefore, it was Lucifer’s desire to be standing on all of God’s stars with their position being under him. Wow, this is not how it is going to turn out as we will soon discover in Revelation 12.
If you have read through the first lesson you already know where we are going next in the dependent symbolic truth relationships. I realize that there are new readers constantly to this website. Therefore if you have not read the first lesson in this series, I would strongly recommend that you go back and start with “Part 1“. We will not be able to repeat that entire lesson again today. So you need to understand foundational basic things from the beginning to better understand the new things that will be discussed today.
GOD’S SYMBOLIC MOON IDENTITY
The next focus will be to ask God to reveal to us who the identity of the symbolic moon in Revelation 12:1 represents. We will also ask Him what it means to have this object under her feet. We do this by allowing the Holy Spirit to guide us into the Bible to define and interpret itself on this subject. This approach eliminates extra-Biblical bias, assumptions and prejudicial interpretations. But before we dig deep into the Bible to explore the moon’s identity, let’s begin to understand this subject with a general overview of our naturally created moon. God teaches us in Romans verse 20 that the invisible qualities of God can be known by observing things that were created, even these declare His eternal power and Godhead. Therefore by understanding naturally created realities we should be able to learn of hidden spiritual characteristics and truths. This is true of the sun, the moon and the stars. For example, notice the photograph in this paragraph of the moon. This photograph shows us the ever changing phases of the moon. The fact that the moon can be in a full visible phase and a completely invisible phase with varying stages in between is profound. According to Malachi 3:6 God says “that He is the LORD and He does not ever change”. Therefore the moon cannot represent a symbol of God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit. The moon also has a dark side that is never seen from earth regardless of the phase revealed to our view. These are just some of the basic natural facts concerning the moon.
Another basic fact is that the moon has NO light or life of its own production. This is also very revealing to us. This knowledge further confirms that the moon cannot represent God who is LIGHT (1 Jn 1:5) and LIFE (Jn 14:6). We have just learn from features given to us by natural observation that it is impossible for the “moon” to be a symbol of God. Therefore, we have eliminated one main Bible possibility.
I have heard more than one preacher claim that the moon represents the church in Bible symbolism. They attempt to say a Christian in of themselves has no “light or life” apart from Jesus who represents the Sun. Therefore, as long as a Christian stays in the light of Jesus they will be the Light within the Dark unsaved world. While that logic could be viewed as partially correct, I do not believe we understand what it means for a woman to be standing on the “church” means. If the moon is a symbol of the church, we are in serious trouble in Revelation 12. We will find out more about it means to be “under foot” later to clear up and learn that the moon cannot be the representation of the church.
The fact that the moon primarily revolves around the earth monthly can also be a clue. If the earth is a symbol of humans, God could never revolve around us. The earth is a symbolic type of the human condition as we learned about in lesson 1. If the earth represents humans we can turn towards God and allow Him to get brighter or by the same choice turn away from God to live apart from Him, on a daily basis. When we turn away from God we are departing from the light and moving back into a realm of darkness where God is not seen. When a Christians realizes their drifting away from God they can choose to repent and turn away from darkness and then move back towards the Light (Jesus). Christians are the ones that must focus on Him (Jesus, our Sun, Light & Life). These are just further confirmations to who the moon cannot represent.
The fact that the moon is normally only viewable at night is also an important fact of truth. This is just another applicable fact that informs us the moon cannot represent God because God is Light and in Him is no darkness. Also we learn from reading 1 John 2:8 that as long as a Christian remains in Him and Him in us we are in the True Light and the darkness has past. Wow, that is an amazing conditional promise, but it is a daily choice to remain in Him and permit Him to be Lord in Us. By us discovering who the moon is not this can greatly help us determine who the moon really represents.
SUN, MOON & STARS – LAW OF FIRST MENTION
Where in the Bible are the sun, the moon and the stars first mentioned? This will help establish by God’s design what is needed to understand the subject of the sun, the moon and the stars found in Revelation 12:1. God consistently reveals fundamental truths and definitions the first time a subject is mentioned in the Bible. Many Bible teachers searched their Bibles and found the sun, moon and stars mentioned in Genesis 37:9.
This verse teaches us about a divinely inspired dream that was given to Joseph. We were introduced to this dream in lesson 1. In this dream many teachers believe that this verse in Genesis 37 proves and confirms that the woman in Revelation 12 must represent the natural nation of Israel using the 12 sons of Jacob. This dream contains a symbolic sun, a symbolic moon and 11 symbolic stars that bow down to Joseph (the 12th Star of the family). However, this interpretation is in error and does not fit the remaining patterns of descriptions for what the woman in Revelation 12 is doing with these objects on and around her body. We have already seen several problems with this application. There are only 11 stars bowing with the moon and the sun. Jacob interpreted the dream and informed us that the sun represented him, the moon Joseph’s mother and the stars were Joseph’s brothers. As we saw before, wearing Jacob, standing on Rachel and a missing star are three of the most profound conflicts.
However, this is one of the main reasons why Bible teachers believe the woman in Revelation 12 represents the natural nation of “Israel”. Many people believe this way. But before you pick up stones to cast at me for being a false teacher, realize that this dream to Joseph is NOT the first mention of the sun, moon and stars in one verse in the Bible and that disqualifies it for usage from the law of first mention interpretation rule. Let’s explore the actual first mention of the sun, moon and stars and learn what God teaches us from it.
The very first mention from God of these created objects is found In the book of Genesis chapter 1 verses 13 through 18. This is the account that describes the 4th day of creation. We can learn some very important applicable truths to Revelation 12:1 by applying the interpretation law of first mention using Genesis 1 and not the assumed Genesis 37 reference. When we do this we will discover that God gives us very specific information and clues to the spiritual identities of the symbolic sun, moon and stars. Of course the first challenge is to realize that these heavenly objects are not called by the obvious names “sun” or “moon” like they are in Revelation chapter 12. This fact has been the reason why so many Bible teachers, students and commentators have not seen these relationships before now.
In Genesis 1 the sun and the moon are hidden, by God by labeling them with alternative names of “the greater light” and “the lesser light”. This was an intentionally designed method of God to conceal them and to reveal them to when He desired us to connect them to Revelation 12. In Genesis 1:16 God declares the existence of two great lights. The first He called the “Greater Light” and the second He called the “lesser light”.
We can all understand that the “greater light” represents another name for the sun and the lesser light represents another name for the moon because they are used with the direct named “stars” that are also heavenly created bodies. But, through God’s usage of “greater” and “lesser” lights we get a direct comparison to hidden spiritual truths of the greater light is described as being much more significant and powerful than the other. We can easily understand how this is found in the natural descriptions of the sun versus the moon. The natural sun is a huge ball of consuming fire and the moon is a smaller object than the earth and is a pile of dead rocks. Wow, that description should turn several lights on inside of our minds.
I believe this Greater and lesser light descriptions correspond to a verse of information given to us by God in 1 John 4:4. This verse is where God says to the church “Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world”. This is another major corresponding parallel comparison of one spiritual person being on the inside of us that is called “greater” than another “lesser” spiritual being that is in the world. That should begin to turn more lights on in our minds to see things that we may have never read in the Bible before from this perspective.
I am a firm believer that the Greater Light represents Jesus Christ as we learned in the first lesson. As 1 John 4:4 teaches us this One that is called Greater is in a Christian. However, there is someone else implied as the lesser light that we are told is in all the people in the world. Wow, isn’t that amazing that this lesser light could be on the inside of someone? This is definitely a New Covenant spiritual reality that must be understood.
Since we already have learned that the “Greater Light” = the “Sun” and these symbols represent “Jesus” who was, and is, and is to come (Rev 1:8). Ask yourself “who is greater than Jesus”? The obvious answer is no one except God the Father. Therefore, we have not narrowed the scope of the possible identity of the moon the lesser light, in the least. Unless we know who God is speaking of in 1 John 4:4. We learn this from reading the contextual verses. There are two opposing spirits being described in verses 1 through 3. One is the Spirit of Christ and the other is the spirit of “antichrist”. These are opposites like the spirit of Christ whois Good and God and the spirit of antichrist is evil and the devil. What we should begin to see is that the moon (lesser light) appears to represent Satan based upon 1 John 4:4. But, let’s continue to study the rest of this subject in Genesis 1 to confirm these truths.
Remember that Genesis chapters 1 through 3 are vastly connected to the book of Revelation. I like to call them the Book Ends of the entire Bible. What God initiates in Genesis, He completes in Revelation. Let us look at a Genesis 1 quick overview. On Day 1 of creation God creates light to shine on the earth and establishes two separations or divisions of natural and spiritual opposition. One He called “day” and the other He called “night”. These are opposites just as we learned from 1 John 4. We could call this “Day” and anti-day.
We can understand from this statement in Genesis 1:3-5 that the sun and moon must have already existed on Day 1 for any of these days and nights on earth to exist. Think about this statement from God logically, the earth rotates completely every 24 hours to fulfill a one day cycle, that cycle consists of both daylight and darkness. It takes approximately 365 of these revolutions to complete one complete cycle of the earth around the sun. This completed cycle causes the fulfillment of one year. Without the sun’s presence providing light and gravitational pull upon the earth it could not participate in a single day cycle. Again it is the earth’s consistent rotation around the sun that causes each night and day to occur.
Therefore, the sun, moon and stars must have been created in Genesis 1:1 when God’s Word said “In the beginning the A-Z God created the heavens and the earth”. The beginning represents the realm of created matter, space, and time. It is very interesting to see what I just quoted from Genesis, that you may have missed. Did you notice that I said the “A-Z” God created? That is what the original Hebrew literally says using the first and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. When we go and read Revelation 1:8 we will find Jesus saying I am the Alpha and the Omega (A-Z) again. God used the first and last Hebrew letters in Genesis and the first and last Greek letters in Revelation about the same person that we call Creator. Again we discover more parallels within the bookends.
I also read in Genesis 1:5 “that there was evening and morning the first day”. The fact that God specifically describes a dusk evening event occurrence and a dawn morning event occurrence proves the sun’s existence. Without a physical sun with a turning earth evenings do not occur nor do sunrises in the morning . There are other Bible lessons that are found on this website to learn more reasons from the Bible for why we should believe this way.
Now continue by reading Day 4 of creation and Genesis 1:16. We can see that God introduces a new concept of “ruling” with two “rulers”. In this verse God says that the created sun (the greater light) will rule the Day division and the created moon (the lesser light) will rule the night division that were previously established on Day 1 of creation. It is very interesting to note that these two divisions can be further divided into 12 unique measurements of time commonly called hours. I believe that it is not by accident or coincidence that God has done this. I believe that this is a purposeful, intentional act of God that reveals some new hidden spiritual things to us.
In the last lesson on this subject I introduced you to a potential new controversial Bible topic division with there being the natural nation of Israel and the spiritual nation Israel (James 1:1, 1 Peter 2:9). Each of these two nations also consist of twelve distinct divisions like day and night. These 12 divisions or sub-divisions are called tribes (Gen 49:28, James 1:1). There were 12 tribes which originated from the man Jacob renamed Israel and there were 12 apostles chosen by the man Jesus a type of Jacob. These are all prophetical patterns of night (darkness) and day (light). Two nations one natural, and one spiritual with both having 12 divisions. Adding them together we get 24, the total hours in one day which consists of the dark and light periods of a day. Do you see how this might apply to the church? Do you remember what Jesus said to the Jewish leaders of natural Israel? He said “Search your scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life but these are they that testify of me”. Wow, Jesus was informing them He was on every page of their scriptures but they could not see Him because they were in darkness. But, we in the church if we have the Light of Jesus on the inside of us can find Him everywhere if we are looking in the same verses. This is probably something new to think about and where we go from here may be even a greater challenge for many to receive.
Day and night are natural symbolic references that present spiritual realities revealed to us in the New Testament. Both of these conditions represent the spiritual state of the hearts of men and women on the earth. Day and Night are two distinct and unique kingdom divisions, one of light and one of darkness. The church is said to be in the day and the light and the rest of the world is said to be in darkness. If you use your Bible search program you will find many references to these facts in both the Old and New Testaments. Search for key words like night, day, light and darkness to start with. I also have an entire Bible series on this specific subject called “Understanding Night and Day“. I would highly recommend that you read and study this subject series to better understand the spiritual truths of the existence of two separate spiritual kingdom realities. When you do this you will find that Jesus came into the dark world as a light to be the spiritual ruler of the spiritual day (Kingdom of Light) and Satan became the ruler of the night (kingdom of darkness) after Adam sinned.
There are two spiritual kingdoms and by default all humans are born in the darkness until the Light of God shines in their hearts. Humans can’t be in both kingdoms at the same time. By default we are all born into Satan’s kingdom of darkness until we receive Jesus to be our Lord and then we are translated and reborn spiritually into the Kingdom of Light (Col 1:13). I will try to give you some of the key verses for those that want an overview or review of the subject:
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
God informs the church that we are now of the Day and of the Light. The church is actually called children of the Light. We learned and should now know from other verses in the Bible that God is Light and in Him is no darkness (1 Jn 1:5). Therefore, the saved members of the church are called the spiritual children of God. Here in 1 Thes. 5:5 is a very clear reference that anyone that is not spiritually reborn into the church (not a child of God) is in the night and in the darkness. We also can see that since God has no darkness in Him, these unsaved people in the darkness are completely separated from God. Wow, by default we are not in God and God is not in us. That should concern us if we have never invited Jesus into our heart.
So again we see two parallel truths, one natural truth and one spiritual. These truths represent divisions and separations. Again we should call these divisions “two kingdoms”, one called day and one called night. We also should learn that kingdoms normally have sovereign rulers. Who are the rulers of day and night? We know from studying the Bible that Night and Day are symbolic representations of the conditions of the hearts of men and women on the earth. Therefore, who the ruler of the kingdom within our hearts is either the ruler of Light or the ruler of darkness depending upon who we allow in our heart. But by default it is Satan when no choice has been made. Let’s go through the Genesis 1 day 4 account of creation and determine how this information fits into God’s spiritual pattern found within created natural truths of day and night:
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Did you notice God said that there were lights, plural that were going to divide the day from the night? What did Day and Night represent? Day and night are symbolic states of the spiritual condition (kingdom) of the hearts of humans. These lights were created to provide humans light and life upon the earth. Earth (soil) represents symbolically the spiritual hearts of men and women. Earth is where the sun shines to cause plants, trees and fruit to grow. The church is instructed to produce fruit (John 15). Where does spiritual fruit grow in man and what causes it?
Here is a quick overview of the process taught by Jesus in the Parable of the sower. Jesus taught us that spiritual fruit comes from spiritual trees and spiritual plants that grow in the spiritual ground (the hearts of mankind) by receiving spiritual Seed which is defined to be the Word of God (Mk 4, Lk 8). I could spend a lot of time familiarizing us with these basic Bible concepts, but hopefully we understand them. If not, please go read the Bible series dedicated to the subject of Understanding the Parable of the Sower. Let us continue in Genesis and see what else God says about these two different dominate lights:
Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
We can clearly see that God declares two lights to be the rulers of these two divisions called day and night. These represent exact times of personal choice. Either day or night, there is no third option or realm of existence. If you are saved you are in the Day and if you reject Jesus not believing in Him you are automatically walking in the blindness of darkness.
The Hebrew word translated as “rule” is H4475 is defined to be someone who is in a state of powerful dominion to rule over a kingdom or a government. This cannot be talking about created planetary bodies in the sky. This is so important to understand the parallels being taught to us by the Holy Spirit. These two ruling lights are representative and symbolical patterns of a much greater hidden spiritual truth.
Here again we can observe one of God’s methods of hiding truth being utilized. In this verse God refers to the “sun” by a completely new and different name, called the “greater light” and the moon, He calls the “lesser light“. This verse contains all of the essential elements found describing the symbolic woman in Revelation 12:1. We can see the Sun, the moon and the stars all being mentioned for the very first time in the Bible. Since it is the first time these celestial objects are all mentioned in the Bible, these verses will help us to understand what these objects represent in Revelation 12. This spiritual law is called the law of first mention and is a common practice that God uses to establish and reveal truth to us. So who rules the day, we found out in lesson 1 that it is Jesus Christ the Sun of Righteousness.
SATAN THE MOON/LESSER LIGHT RULER OF THE DARKNESS
We are now going to begin to search and find scriptures in the Bible related to the ruler of the kingdom of darkness. God chose to conceal Satan as the moon ruler using different techniques in the Bible. But, even if these do not use the literal name or title of the “moon” or “lesser light” that does not mean that we will be unable to see that this is what God is speaking of using different references both direct and indirect. For example, here is a good scripture that is certainly related to our current moon subject indirectly using unstated antithesis truth laws:
1 Jn 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
John writing to the church tells them that the “true light” is now shining in them. They have come out of the darkness and the night because they have seen the True Light (Jesus) in the internal spiritual realm. But by the law of inverse truth, if there is a true light, then there is also an antithesis unstated “false light” truth. This is an interesting consideration to ponder. You see the moon who rules the darkness does not produce any light of itself or have any ability to shine light without the existence of the greater light called the sun. The sun as we now know is Jesus Christ and we are beginning to learn the moon is the symbol of Satan the ruler of the spiritual darkness (a kingdom without God). The moon is a false light and a lesser light and the Sun is the True Light and the Greater One. Satan must be the ruler of the darkness; Satan must be the ruler of the night by inference. The concepts of a True Light and a false light is very similar to the saying of the Christ and an antichrist. Jesus is the Christ and Satan is the antichrist. These are just basic Bible patterns and principles of opposites being demonstrated to us. Jesus is good and Satan is evil. But, let us confirm all of this in the Bible:
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
What we see in this verse directed to the church is a fact that declares our enemy to be the rulers of the darkness of this world. Remember that darkness is a spiritual condition of the hearts of unsaved people that are in the spiritual state of night without light (God). This can only be Satan and his demonic cohorts. Just note the direct reference to someone ruling and where they are said to be the ruler of; this of course is the darkness. Also remember that darkness is simply the nonexistence of light (No God). If we take light (God) away, people will be living in darkness.
It is very important to remember that darkness is a synonymous term for night. If Jesus is the spiritual Light of the world, then those who do not know Christ are people that are in a state of spiritual darkness (night). We should also consider the fact that night is the normal time for good people to rest and evil people to do evil. According to Ephesian 6:12 Satan is the ruler of those individuals without Christ living in darkness. If you noticed in Ephesians 6:12, it said the enemy of the church was a spiritual force that consisted of “principalities” and “powers”. If we again go back to Genesis 1:16 and review the Hebrew word H4475 translated as “rule”, it means to govern and have power over. So we can see that God has given Satan the legal right to seize power over everyone still living in his realm of the darkness. But, then we could also say that for those who belong to Christ, they are now ruled by Jesus, the Light of Day and Satan does not have any legal power or authority over us unless we give it back to him and sometimes we do too easily. Let’s look at another New Testament verse about Satan:
1Co 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
This verse is again speaking about Satan being called the “prince” of this world. The Greek word translated as “prince” means “ruler”, the one that is above the rest. This is not speaking of a natural or physical kingdom in this verse, but it is speaking of the order within the spiritual realm of darkness. This world is a hidden reference to the spiritual dark world that we do not perceive with our 5 natural physical senses. What we realize from this verse is that this present world is ruled by an unseen spiritual force that will come to nothing eventually. So let’s expand our knowledge with another verse:
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Again we see a very clear reference to a “prince” as being a spiritual ruler of the dark world system. Paul writes that we who are now in the church use to obey this prince, but now we should not. The implication is given that we (the church) are now and should remain on the outside from under the control of this dark ruler of the dark world, even though he still is working in those who are not Christians. This Greek word translated as “prince” or “ruler” is clearly stated to be a spiritual being that we cannot perceive with our 5 senses. There is a clear division being stated between two groups of people; one group in the light and one group in the darkness. Here is another witness to exactly what we need to learn today:
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
We can again clearly see a distinction and division being stated between two groups of people. These are clearly stated to be two distinct and different kingdoms and the rulers of the kingdoms are stated to us indirectly and directly. You can clearly see that it directly names Jesus the Son of God to be the ruler of the kingdom that the church now exists within. Indirectly we have to make the association that the “power of darkness” is a reversed and opposite ruler to Jesus (True Light) and he must be the “false light” of the moon. This indirect ruler with power reference can only be Satan the moon we learned in Genesis 1.
We need to understand a new quality of the moon light called deception. The true light of the sun, is so intensely bright that we can see no other lights in the sky normally. But at night the moon can be in any phase or totally dark. This represents the concept of deception. Since we can clearly see the moon at night and it does reflect a light that is not its own, that makes it a type of a deceiver. We learn from reading Revelation 12:9 that Satan is described to be the one that has deceived the whole world. How does he accomplish this? He does it by presenting deceptive thoughts, ideas and suggestions into the human’s mind and if we believe them he has taken us captive. We may talk more about this later.
So we have seen several good Bible references for Satan being called the prince, ruler and power of this present spiritual world of darkness. But, we will see another related scripture found in 2 Corinthians:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Both an explicit and an implied truth is given to us in this verse. We should be able to see that Jesus Christ is recognized to be the spiritual (implied Sun) light, that is trying to shine into the darkened hearts of men and women who believe not the truth. We can logically deduce from this verse that those who believe, are those who the Light of Christ has risen within their spirits and those who are not saved are those that don’t believe in the Light thus still remaining in darkness. This verse implies that those who do not see the light (Jesus) of truth do not see either by 1) their own choice or 2) they have been blocked from seeing the light by Satan’s choice. This inability to see the light can be caused by Satan due to an implied cloud like situation, shadow or other type of blockage within the human mind that causes Jesus (The Word) not to be received internally. These unseeing people are literally spiritually blinded by their own carnal thoughts, ideas or mental distractions. There is an implied spiritual reality that must be casting a shadow internally so that they are unable to see His glorious light. This verse is describing two contrasting spiritual kingdom views between those who are in the darkness versus those that can begin to see daylight.
God also reveals who is blinding those who do no believe in Christ and he is called the “god of this world”, who is again Satan. It is Satan that has blinded their minds so that they cannot see (which literally means to perceive or understand) the light (Word of God) Jesus Christ. Physical blindness is the inability to see natural light clearly, spiritual blindness is the inability to see and understand the spiritual Word of God internally. Blindness can be external or internal according to this verse. Remember Satan who rules the night is said to be the one that keeps the light from shinning into their hearts and he uses thoughts placed in their mind to defeat them.
We are learning that Satan is the symbolic moon who rules those in the darkness and keeps men and women from seeing the True Light through a concept of blocking the light. Because some people see a little false light named Satan (moon) they believe his lies, tricks and deceptions. Our physical moon in the night sky has no life or light in itself. So it is analogous to Satan who is a deceiver with no life or light in him. But do not forget about the natural concept of eclipses that do occur in our natural realm. When this happens the sun’s light can be partially or completely covered or blocked by the moon. This causes humans not to be able to see the true light of the sun for a duration. This happens even though the moon is significantly smaller than the sun. But, since the moon is so much closer to the earth it does not take an object as great as the sun to block the sun. We can learn this by holding up our hand in front of our eyes while looking at the sun. The light from the sun can by blocked by our hand the same as the much larger moon. I hope and pray that you understand these simple natural truths and are transferring this information into the parallels and patterns of the spiritual realm correctly. It would be very helpful to read these lesson more than once.
Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
You see in Genesis 1:17 and 18 the reiteration of the truth of God’s word, the sun will rule the day and the moon will rule the night. God prophesies that He will cause two separate spiritual divisions to manifest and one will be called the kingdom of light and the other will be called the kingdom of darkness. Within these kingdoms they will be ruled by two different rulers, one significantly greater than the other. We know that God is light and in Him is no darkness. Therefore we know that God is of the day and that is where the true church now is also, because He is inside of us. These are very powerful spiritual truths that every Christian needs to thoroughly understand and I hope I have helped you to see them.
I’ll leave you in this lesson, with this final bit of information. The fourth day of creation was a prophetic event within human history. God declares that a day with the LORD is as a 1000 years and a 1000 years are even as one day (2 Peter 3:8). If you do the math you will find that Jesus was born 4000 years after Adam was created. In other words Jesus came to the earth on the 4th day of creation as foretold by Genesis 1:16 to bring a spiritual Light to rule men and women and to provide an option out of Satan’s kingdom of darkness. When Jesus came into the dark world as a light He established a spiritual division of rulership that God called Day, meaning He left Satan out in the darkness. This is why the Bible says if Satan would have known what was going to happen, he would not have crucified the LORD of Glory.
Now we have established the identity of two of the major key dependent symbols in the book of Revelation and we should now be able to see clearer the identity of the woman suspect being described causing the other women suspects to move further away from clear focused possibility.
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (????) clothed with the sun (Jesus Christ), and the moon (Satan) under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Are you becoming a great detective and seeing the clues provided by God? So far I have just filled in two of the main dependent symbolic clues and already we have a greatly reduced set of possible suspect candidates for the true identity of the woman in Revelation12. In fact in my mind she can only be one woman in the list of suspect candidates. But, we will continue the study of the identity of the woman in Revelation 12 and hopefully we can all be united and all come to the same conclusion after viewing all of the facts of evidence provided by the Word of God. In my next lesson I will explore further evidence in the Bible for who the moon represents and we will hopefully begin to understand why the woman in Revelation 12 is standing on this moon symbol. We will learn that this is a major clue establishing the moon’s (Satan’s) prophesied position to be under the feet of the Church.
If you want to continue reading this series go to Part 3.
The True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12! Pt 1
(Ver 3.8) This is the Part 1 of a series of extremely advanced spiritual Bible lessons that will reveal and help us to understand the “True Identity of the Woman in Revelation 12“. It is intended for spiritually mature Christians that are not easily offended at learning things that they have not seen before in the Bible. There are many opinions on who this woman is in Revelation 12. Is she a natural physical woman or a spiritual symbolic woman describing someone else? We can go and search the internet and find various approaches to the interpretation of this chapter. However, the vast majority of these interpretations that I found are based upon limited scriptures and more on significant human reasoning and personal opinion of the subject. These sound like they are private types of invalid interpretations of the scripture based upon 2 Peter 1:20. In 2 Peter we are told very clearly that no scripture is of a “private interpretation”. What we learn from Peter is that the Bible will interpret itself. In other words the Author God will explain the passage somewhere else in the Bible! Otherwise, the interpretations is just an opinion which is always trumped by a known fact of truth. A factual truth will always take precedence over any opinion. Which is always overruled by God’s Truth. Therefore we must seek to learn what God says on the subject. That is our goal in this Bible study series!.
Let us recognize a basic law of solid Bible interpretation. What God has declared in His Word about a subject will always take precedence over any natural fact, theory, or opinion that is known and believed to be true by a human. So in this lesson series we are going to focus primarily on what does God say in His Word about this woman. In doing this we will also search the Bible for God’s definitions of the words and symbols used in chapter 12 of Revelation.
We will also analyze some predominate theories that have been widely taught in the church about this woman to either confirm or show them to be less than truthful using the Bible only. Following this Biblical approach to interpretation by allowing the Bible to interpret itself, we will ultimately conclude our beliefs to be based upon the best scriptural evidence that we are able to find with the Holy Spirit’s guidance. While doing this we must ultimately put aside human doctrines, traditions, opinions, biases, prejudices and presumptions to allow the Word of God to overrule.
Finally, if you are a true believer and have been born again, you have the same Holy Spirit inside of you that the Apostle John, Peter, Paul, etc. had in them. You are in the same church that every writer of the Bible was in and this included Paul. Often times I think that we forget this, or don’t know this or just ignore this fact. The same author of the Bible that was on the inside of the writers is on the inside of us to help us to understand the words. But because we may not know this we may not realize that what God did for all the Bible writers, including Paul, He will do for us also. The Bible clearly says that God is no respecter of persons (Act 10:34). Therefore, if He does not do what He did for someone else He has become unjust. However, please understand we must do the things of those that received this ability or we would fail to qualify to receive. This is what Paul said about what he taught:
Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
So where did Paul claim to get the information that he was teaching? Apparently it was not from any seminary, synagogue temple or human teacher on this earth. Neither did he attempt to privately interpret the Old Testament with his own individual effort of reasoning. Therefore, this information that he has written for us did not originate on the earth, but rather came directly from the O.T. author, God.
So when I read through some of the lessons on the subject of the identity of the woman in Revelation 12, I was very surprised to see how many quoted sources that came from some external Bible human reference or commentary. Many of the lessons simply said “I think this woman is __________. What do you think?” Few could provide significant Biblical proof or evidence for the identity to the woman, and much of what was taught was based upon ignorance, human reasoning, presumption or speculation. I do not believe that is a valid approach to the interpretation of the Bible.
I cannot emphasize enough the complexity of the Bible and the infinite knowledge of the Holy Spirit Author. He has written the Bible in a fashion that conceals vast amounts of spiritual information, making it very challenging for natural thinking humans to understand. However, we should begin to learn to see and think in spiritual terms as He thinks. We can begin to do this by learning the methods and techniques that God has used in writing the Bible to conceal information in plain sight. As we continue to grow spiritually, we will soon begin to understand much more of the Bible. If you would like to study some of the techniques that God uses for “Hiding the Truth in Plain Sight” then please read that first.
Finally, I would like to reemphasize one key to understanding any part of the Bible is to first learn that the Bible ALWAYS interprets itself. Knowing this we must then learn that there are divinely designed spiritual laws of interpretations that must be known and applied with the Holy Spirit’s help in order to begin to understand any subject. The woman in Revelation 12 is no exception. Please, let us keep this in our minds as we study this subject. Also ask questions while we read the chapter and then look for the answers to the questions in the Bible and I believe the Holy Spirit will lead us to the truth (John 16:13).
ASKING GOOD QUESTIONS AND FINDING GOD’S ANSWERS
In this lesson we will be going over several key subjects found in the chapter. These topics will lay the foundation for all of the lessons that will follow. We will address numerous described descriptions and issues that will be key to understanding this woman and her true identity. Here are the sections that will be covered in today’s lesson:
- WHO CAN THE REVELATION 12 WOMAN POSSIBLY BE?
- WHEN DOES THE EVENTS IN REVELATION 12 OCCURR?
- WHAT ARE THE SYMBOLS RELATED TO THE WOMAN?
- WHAT DO THE GIVEN SYMBOLS MEAN TO GOD?
- WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – “THE NUMBER 12”
- WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – “THE STARS”
- WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – “THE CROWN”
- WHO IS THE SYMBOLIC SUN?
- WHO IN THE BIBLE IS TOLD TO WEAR THE SUN?
This will be a lot of questions to answer and new information to learn. I would recommend that you break this lesson into sections and take one at a time. Read what is written and revealed by the Holy Spirit and then go look up all the scriptures in your own Bible to verify that this is what the Holy Spirit inside of you says (Acts 17:11). Let’s get started.
WHO CAN THE REVELATION 12 WOMAN POSSIBLY BE?
Let us start with an identification of the possible candidates for the identity of the woman in Revelation 12. I would strongly suggest that you go find your Bible and open it and read the entire chapter 12 of Revelation. There are only 17 verses in the entire chapter and we will find it begins with the woman’s description and it ends with radically new descriptions of the same exact woman. However, there appears to be a paradox given to us. The woman in verse 1 appears in Heaven and the woman at the end of the chapter is clearly on the earth. That is a very important fact to remember and who this woman must be able to conform with being in two dimensions simultaneously, one being the natural earth and the other being the spiritual heaven.
Everything in chapter 12 between verse 1 and verse 17 is a description of a warfare that is taking place between the woman and Satan. Write down all of the symbols and descriptions in a list to help you organize your thoughts. There is only one woman listed in this chapter and she is our focused priority. However, there are many other symbols and descriptions that are used by God to describe her and all of these are very important.
What does “identity” means? Here is one definition that I found; “the fact of being who or what a person or thing is”. Ok, when a crime is committed in modern times a video camera usually captures images of a suspect. The police detective is charged with the assignment of evaluating the images to determine the “identity” of that suspect. In other words, the suspect is initially labeled as “unknown” and this is how the woman in Revelation 12 should be classified to begin our study. Please do not bring any preconceived bias into this process of identifying the woman. These types of biases will normally only hinder us from finding the truth.
Many times the police detective will use facial recognition software to compare the images with other known criminals from the past. If that does not give them an answer, then sometimes I have seen them post the picture on the news to allow others to call in and help identify the suspect. Well that is a similar paradigm for us to follow in determining the identity of the woman in Revelation 12. We will become Bible detectives charged with discovering her identity by examining previous Bible suspected women.
Like the detective of a crime the suspect woman in Revelation 12 might be a brand new never identified woman or she is more likely a known woman that has been described before in the Bible. I am a believer that this woman in Revelation 12, is someone who occurs in the Bible and has been previously identified using another name or description we could call her alias or really her true identity. Therefore, I will start by providing a list of possible suspect women that I have found in the Bible.
However, it is a good time to ask another logical question to begin our search. We should ask “Is this woman in Revelation 12 a literal previously named or unnamed physical Bible woman or is she a symbolic representation for a known or unknown spiritual woman?” These are the only two categories of valid types of women I have found in the Bible. We all know that God is a Spirit (Jn 4:24) and He created the natural realm (Gen 1). Therefore, this woman could be a single spiritual female being (Zec 5:9), or a physical naturally created female (Gen 2:22), or she could be a symbolic woman for a group of people either natural (Jer 31:32) or spiritual (2 Cor 11:2).
Hopefully you have already read chapter 12 of Revelation and can see as I do that this woman being described must be a symbolic woman representing a larger group of individuals either natural or spiritual. However, there are people who believe this woman is the single physical virgin woman named “Mary” that gave birth to Jesus in Bethlehem. Therefore, we will at least consider her as one of our suspects.
From everything that I have studied so far in the Bible, here are the possibilities with the greatest probability to be a suspect in our attempt to find the identity of the woman in Revelation 12:
- The Earthly Jerusalem, the natural nation of Israel, the Old Testament Covenant Wife of God Jehovah (Gal 4:25, Jer 31:32). This would be a symbolic woman that represents a completely natural nation of people named Israel in the O.T.
- The Heavenly Jerusalem (Heb 12:22), the spiritual mother of Jesus, the church (Gal 4:26) and all those born from the dead (Col 1:15-18, Rom 8:29). This would be a symbolic woman that is a representation for a completely spiritual group of beings.
- The New Jerusalem, the Church, the Bride, the New Covenant Wife of Jesus Christ and the Lamb (Rev 21:2). This would be a woman that represents a new spiritual nation of believers in Jesus Christ (1 Peter 2:9).
- Finally, the physical natural woman named Mary, the natural virgin mother of the naturally born Son of God/Son of Man named Jesus (Mat 1:16). This would represent a woman that is an individual created female.
No doubt there will be many that will read this list of 4 possible suspect candidates and not understand it. Possibly you have other women in the Bible that you can think of that this woman in Revelation 12 could possibly fit the suspect profile for. If you would like to leave a comment and share her with us, I will read what you think. I would however, ask that you please give us Bible verses that help to confirm what you are saying.
Perhaps you noticed from the list of suspects, three symbolic women were all named “Jerusalem“. However, they were made to be individual and separate by the qualifiers, “earthly”, “heavenly” and “new”. I believe that if we study the Bible very carefully to observe what is said, we will discover that there are 3 completely different covenant cities in the Bible which are all called by the exact same name Jerusalem. This is just one technique that God used to conceal truth from us in the Bible (Prov 25:2). God calls multiple separate things by the exact same name and this causes us to ask which one is He referring to in every occurrence of the singular name “Jerusalem” with no qualifier.
We should already realize that there are natural things and spiritual realities that can and do co-exist simultaneously and these can be called by the same name, title or description. I’ll give you a very important example from the book of Hebrews. In Hebrews 8:4-5 God writes to teach us the difference between earthly priests and the temple and the spiritual same. God very clearly says that Moses was given “patterns” of things that pre-existed in the heavenly temple to build here on earth. This is tremendous knowledge to learn from and has vast implications attached to it. This implies the Heavenly Temple had a Heavenly High Priest and that what was made on temporary earth for the natural nation of Israel was made in the image of the existing spiritual reality.
In other words Heaven exist first, then came the natural later. Who could this Heavenly Priest been before Jesus came into the world? I believe it was Satan. Remember Satan is described having a breastplate like a High Priest in Ezekiel 28:13. We do know from reading Hebrews 8 that Jesus is our High Priest in the New Covenant. Wow, do you see the repeated patterns being transitioned from the Heavenly to the Earthly and then back to the Heavenly in the New? This is one reason why I believe in 3 cities named “Jerusalem”.
I believe every one of these cities named Jerusalem (Heavenly, Earthly and New) represents a symbolic female (nation of individuals) in a separate covenant relationship with God. I know this is brand new information to most of my new readers. But please do not discard it very quickly without studying it in full. Something new does not mean it is something untrue.
Also, I have found verses that all four of these suspect women in my list are described in the Bible as having children and being mothers. For example, the Heavenly Jerusalem is called a spiritual mother of the church in Galatians 4:26. The virgin Mary is obviously called a mother in Matthew 1 and Luke 1. The natural nation of Israel which is also called Earthly Jerusalem is called a mother in Matthew 23:37 and Galatians 4:25. We will hopefully get to the verses about the New Jerusalem being a mother later in the series as we learn. But, any of these suspected women could fit the pattern description of being the pregnant woman in Rev 12. I do not have the time to completely explain all of this in one lesson, so please go and study it for yourself or be patient to see what else will come next. I also have multiple other Bible lessons on this website that will help you.
WHEN DO THE EVENTS IN REVELATION 12 OCCUR?
There are 5 basic “W” questions to ask when studying any Bible subject. This is for us to ask God “who”, “what”, “when”, “where” and “why”. I would like us to address these questions in this Bible study series. We will start this lesson on Revelation 12 with the basic and very important question “when does these chapter 12 events of Revelation occur?” I believe that when we understand the timing given to the events being described we can better understand which suspected women can be eliminated because of their potential alibies of being at some other place at some other time with some other people. Ha ha! It should be obvious that Revelation 12 is either:
1) a past historical event,
2) a present day current event or
3) a future coming event.
This may be a very new approach for many Bible students. I have never seen anyone attempt to explain this woman in this way before. We also will begin this study from a very different scripture than what you might expect. Since we are studying about chapter 12 of Revelation, I would like for us to back up and begin reading with Revelation chapter 1 and verse 19.
Rev 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
Notice how Jesus gives John the outline for the entire book of Revelation here in this verse. Jesus instructs John to write about things that he has seen in the past first. Then write about things he is seeing currently now in the present tense. And finally, to write about things that will happen in the future tense LAST! Wow, that sounds important to know. Jesus certainly understood what was going to be written. Therefore, we just learned how the information should flow and be organized.
Now we need to read chapter 4 to learn something very important that God says concerning the timing of the events in Revelation 12. Determining the correct timing will help us tremendously to understand which interpretation is applicable and valid and which interpretations are easily excused or dismissed as suspects. I pray so sincerely that this is understood? Let us read Revelation 4:1 to find out the timing of the Revelation 12 events:
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Some obviously read scriptures and just ignore them, don’t understand them or fail to apply them later. With any o these we are going to fall short in our understanding of the Bible. Here in this verse we have God in Heaven telling the apostle John “after this” to “come up” to heaven so that He can be shown the things that will occur after what was previously discussed and written about. What was previously written in chapters 2 and 3? We should all know that these were the 7 letters to the 7 churches. We may or may not know that these represent 2 perspectives.
First, the 7 letters to the 7 churches were literal physical churches that existed at the time this book of the Bible existed in 90 A.D. Second these 7 churches represent 7 periods of time within the entire 2000 year time of the church age. If these churches were not listed in this specific order and described in these specific ways, there would not be an accurate ability to apply them to this time period. What is my point? The point is Revelation 4:1 begins with “After this” and this can be used to inform us that what is happening next in the Book of Revelation is after the church age has ended.
This would mean that from this point in time forward of Revelation 4:1 everything is after the church has been raptured into heaven. We know this by studying the Greek word “metah-taupah” that was translated as the English word “after this” and “hereafter” in Revelation 4:1. This is the exact same word that used in Revelation 1:19 where Jesus gave us the outline of the book of Revelation to John saying “write what you have seen (Past Tense), the things that are (Present Tense) and the things that will come hereafter (Future Tense) “metah-taupah”. Revelation chapter 1 is the past tense division of the book. Revelation chapters 2 and 3 were the present tense division of the book being applicable to the church age. Then beginning in Revelation 4 and following these are ALL the things that had not occurred during the church age and are a designated division of future tense events.
Therefore, we should realize that from chapter 4 forward, whatever was written by John, God says has NOT occurred at the exact time of the words being written down. If you disagree with this please just leave a kind comment and explain why. Otherwise, let us all please take the Bible literally at every opportunity that is permissible. One good law of basic Bible interpretation is that “when the plain sense makes good sense, apply no other sense, or we can stumble into nonsense”. That would be different than takin the woman in Revelation 12 literally as she is described to be wearing the Sun, while standing on the moon. That makes no plain sense, therefore we must apply the new sense of symbolism to understand what is being communicated.
I think what potentially confuses some, is the fact that God uses future symbolism in Revelation which describes previous scriptural people, events, things and individuals. All of these new symbols existed prior to this writing of Revelation and were written about in other books using different names, titles or descriptions. Therefore, some of these future symbols will reflect historical and existing spiritual and physical realities like Jesus, Satan, angels, the church, the nation of Israel, and other spiritual entities that must already pre-exist before Revelation 4:1. We can see and learn this very clearly by reading Revelation 12:9. We are introduced to a key figure in Revelation 12 called the dragon and God defines who this symbol represent in verse 9 very clearly. Here God says the “dragon” represents the “old serpent” called the “Devil” and “Satan”. Wow, that is a major revelation of how God defines symbols in the Book of Revelation and chapter 12 specifically.
Therefore, what is prophesied to happen to these historical or existing entities in the future could be easily confused with past event occurrences that have already occurred because of the similarities and patterns that are given to us in these future descriptions of new events that happen to existing spiritual beings like Satan. God makes it so clear by calling the “dragon” the ancient serpent from Genesis 3:1. He then connects these two symbols, the serpent and the dragon to be one named spirit being named “Satan”. This information is vital to learn and know and it teaches us so much about interpreting the woman in Revelation 12 also.
Please understand there is a difference between something that is prophesied to happen to someone that already exists and something that has already happened to someone a longtime before. The first conforms with the declaration of Revelation 4:1 about future events and the second is , is a major conflict and a problem. We must change our perspective to say the prophesied birth of the woman’s child has not occurred when the book of Revelation was written. Because that would violate the definition of a prophecy and conflict with the scripture we just read in Revelation 4:1 where God says everything that is stated from this point forward has NOT yet occurred. I pray that this brings us clarity and agreement.
What we are going to soon discover is that there are statements found in Revelation 12 that will cause most people to gravitate to a specific pre-drawn conclusion of the identity of the woman in Revelation 12 because she is described to be 1) pregnant, 2) her child after birth is said to be caught up (raptured) to heaven and 3) because her child is said to rule with a rod of iron. Therefore, we all have automatically been drawn to and concluded without studying or taking into account Revelation 4:1 that the child must be the birth of the naturally born Jesus described in Matthew 1 and Luke 1, born in the town of Bethlehem. I use to think this way. But, I learned this thinking forces the woman in Revelation 12 to either be 1) the one physical woman Mary or 2) the collective symbolic woman of the natural nation of Israel (aka Earthly Jerusalem).
However, I believe that this rapid jump into a premature conclusion interpretation that potentially causes God’s Word to appear to be confused. God would seem to be someone that does not know the truth. I do not personally believe that God is confused or that this event of the child’s birth has already occurred as we know from Matthew’s and Luke’s Gospels! Therefore, we should begin to understand that this interpretation of the child in Revelation 12 being naturally born Jesus causes a major conflict with scriptures. We would have to ignore Revelation 4:1 or explain it away to mean something it does not say.
This type of pre-drawn fast conclusion in Bible study would be like a police detective assuming a suspect’s identity without first examining all of the evidence that has been found at the crime scene. Because a few facts point us to one assumed main suspect that is easily remembered does not produce evidence beyond a reasonable doubt for a conviction. This is often times called “circumstantial evidence”. The circumstances being described to us in Revelation 12 appear to be only 1 suspect that does not make it the truth. Like I said before maybe this person has an alibi and this would cause an injustice to be initiated for our suspected woman’s identity.
Let me try to say this a different way. Just because one man fits a partial description of someone we think is Jesus Christ does not mean the suspected mother identity should should be arrested and found guilty without examining all of the rest of the substantial proof and evidence of every known truth in the rest of the chapter.
What if our suspect candidate that was arrested had an unknown twin sister and she committed the crime? What if that twin that did not commit the crime became the identified and assumed suspect and got arrested, tried and convicted based upon just the video camera recordings? Is that fair to her? Why then is it fair to this woman in Revelation to claim that she is the virgin Mary or natural nation of Israel when all of the evidence has not been found or analyzed?
Clearly in Revelation 12 God is now revealing new information to John a long time AFTER the physical birth, death, resurrection and the ascension of Jesus into heaven. I also would like to point out that Revelation 12 says the “child” is “caught up” and that does not match the description of the ascension given in Acts 1 of the man Jesus rising slowly into heaven. Also, Jesus was a full grown mature man of at least 33 1/2 years of age and Revelation 12 says her son that is caught up as a child. We also need to know that this word translated as “caught up” in Revelation 12, is G726 (harpazo) and it literally means to “seize suddenly by force”. The ascension of the man Jesus in Acts 1 uses a different Greek word G1869 (epairo) and this does not match the type or method of Jess going up. The evidence is just not in complete alignment and agreement for this child to be Jesus, even though there are some similarities. I think we are getting off of our main line of thought so let’s wrap this part of the lesson up and move on to the next topic.
What I believe is that God is trying to get us to see, is the fact that the prophecies going forward from Revelation 4 are all about coming future events and not about historical past events that have already occurred. We can easily disagree with God, if we would like to but that is probably why our Bible interpretations seem to conflict with other scriptures.
Forgive me for saying this again, but if God says that He will show us things to come in Revelation 4:1, we know that chapter 12 comes after chapter 4 and must have not occurred. If this is true there is a major problem with the majority of interpretations of the woman in Revelation 12 that I have heard and read being the natural nation of Israel.
I believe that too many teachers have jumped to a quick conclusion that the child born must describe the birth of the physical natural child named Jesus in Bethlehem and therefore the woman must be the natural nation of Israel or the physical woman Mary. And we know they teach this way even though this birth of physical Jesus took place even before the church age began. This is ignoring critical scriptural evidence that must be applied in this lesson series to help us understand that she must be a different pregnant woman suspect than the obvious one that everyone believes.
Maybe this will help us to ask this, when did John write this book? Was it after Jesus was born or before Jesus was born? Most Bible scholars will agree that the book of Revelation was written a long time after the birth of Jesus and could have been written somewhere around the year 90 to 96 AD. Obviously it should be clear in our minds that Revelation was written well after the physical birth of Jesus. Therefore, we must conclude that the baby described in Revelation 12 can NOT be physical Jesus using this information, and logical application of the factual truths of Revelation 1:19 and 4:1.
I know that this may upset a great number of readers that have already predetermined who the woman and her child represents. But yet we are just reading and studying the Bible and seeing what God says. If God would have said in Rev 4:1 come up here and I will show you the things that have already happened and the things that will come hereafter, then that changes our prospective view of the possible interpretations significantly. Since that is not the case, what we must conclude based upon the Word of God is that the pregnancy of the woman and the birth of the child in Revelation 12 are both future events that will happen after the minimum of 90 AD.
I personally believe that God says what He means and means what He says. Therefore, let us continue to study and move forward asking more questions so that the Holy Spirit on the inside can help us resolve these conflicts that we are seeing in the scriptures. We have spent enough time trying to answer the “when” question. But, I could spend a lot more time on this topic but I will conclude this section with asking you when do the other events of Revelation 4 through 22 occur? Please go study and read them and ask have any of these other events occurred yet? Has the anti-Christ been revealed? Has the judgments of God been initiated? Are there two witnesses standing in the city of Jerusalem preaching to the nations? Are there a 144000 with 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel being used by God yet? Has the whore Babylon been destroyed? Has the star wormwood hit the earth and turned a lot of water to an undrinkable condition? On and on we could go. I know that some say that these have already occurred but they are clearly wrong. Don’t be deceived to believe these events have occurred already. They are ALL about to happen in a very short time from now. Amen.
WHAT ARE THE SYMBOLS RELATED TO THE WOMAN?
In order to identify the woman in Revelation 12 correctly, I found that it was critical to accurately identify the woman’s associated symbolic characteristics and descriptions first. This is us asking some of the “what” questions about the woman. What is she wearing, what is she standing on, what is she doing? What does it mean to be wearing a crown? What does it mean to be clothed with the Sun? What does it mean to be standing on the moon?
What we will discover when we study to find the answers to these question concerning the given symbolic descriptions of the woman’s features, these clearly point us to ONLY one possible valid truthful identity in our suspect list. It is what I call “dependent truth relationships”. Until we identify the “parent” truths, we will never understand the “child” truths. I am not really sure if you understand this concept that I just introduced you to. But, please give me a chance to explain and please be patient to learn.
This concept of truth dependency is found in the Bible, and naturally created patterns like computer programming and other paradigms. For example we view this truth in the natural world when speaking of children born from their parents. But, in object oriented computer programming languages this feature can be called “inheritance”. This is where one computer object (class) inherits or takes on the qualities and features from another pre-defined dependent object (class) that existed prior to the creation of the new object. We can not fully understand the new child’s object capabilities without first fully understanding the source of inherited parent’s object characteristics. If you do know anything about object oriented computer programming you still may be struggling with this concept applying to the Bible. So I’ll try to apply this concept by teaching about the parent symbols found in Revelation 12 to help us understand the woman’s dependent characteristic identities and this will help us narrow the woman’s identity eliminating everyone else that she can’t be.. Most of these dependent parent symbol truths start with information found in Revelation 12:1:
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
We can see immediately in verse 1 that this referenced woman is “clothed” with a very significant object referred to as a symbolic “sun”. Then we are informed that she is “standing with her feet” upon another very significant specific object named to be a symbolic “moon”. Finally on her head she is “crowned” with another symbolic item of a crown containing “12 stars”. What we should start with, is to realize that this information dictates facts of truth that this described woman MUST be a symbolic representation of a greater spiritual truth because of the nature of the symbolic descriptions selected and their placements on her physical body which are used by God to describe her.
Normally God gives us symbolic information using natural objects that we can understand to help represent spiritual truths that we have never seen or understood. Jesus used this technique numerous times in the form of parables like the Parable of the Sower, the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, etc. By us understanding these natural object identities we can then transfer this knowledge into understanding the dependent unstated and unseen spiritual truth dimension. What are the given key symbols from Revelation 12:1?
- A Woman
- Clothed with Sun
- Standing on the Moon
- Crowned with 12 Stars
The most important things to take away from what we have read so far is to understand that there is a woman, the sun, the moon and the 12 stars and these must ALL be symbolic references using naturally created God objects pointing us to much greater hidden spiritual truths. We know this fact of truth because it is impossible to physically wear the literal “sun” as clothing. We could place a picture representation of the sun on our shirt, pants, robe or whatever we were wearing but that is not what God said. God literally says she is wearing the sun not a picture. Therefore, this is a word description and association containing a hidden definition that God must provide their meanings to us somewhere in His Word.
I’ll try to go further with the objected oriented programming concepts because this does apply to understanding the Bible and our specific subject. If you are not a computer programmer you may want to jump to the next paragraph. But in computer programming any named object (class) can possess pre-defined data members and member function methods. These can be inherited by a new dependent object type of a similar kind with new or modified data and feature methods. Let’s go a bit deeper. For example, the Sun can synonymously also be called a Star. Therefore, the Sun object could inherit specific characteristics from the more generic (general) Star object. But the Sun implementation can contain new specific data, information and methods that pertain only to our closest star object we call our sun. If you are struggling with this concept, I understand.
Maybe this will be more understandable for non-programmers if we view it in the terms of a new child born to any human woman. This new child will obviously inherit DNA characteristics from the contributing parents (mother and father). These DNA characteristics will include possible hair color, nose shape and size, eye color and shape, height, weight and on and on we could go. I know people when they looked at my son, they knew I was his father because of the passed down resemblance of his characteristics and features. This is called a type of inheritance. My son inherited features from me and my wife. Hopefully, this knowledge will help us as we continue to study because it is taught relates to what we are seeing in the Bible about Revelation 12.
I’ll give you a quick Bible reference to inheritance in the beginning of the Bible to assist us how this applies. For example, go and read Genesis 1:26 when God said “Let us make man in our image and after our likeness…”. The Hebrew word translated as “image” means a “resemblance” or “a representative example”. This would be like a model of a car or an airplane. The small model is not the real airplane but viewing the model we can discover the real’s main characteristics and features.
Believe it or not that describes the Object Oriented programming type of inheritance also. We can look at the Originating God Creator (class/object) and begin to understand the created model man (class/object) because of man’s similar inherited features, abilities, etc. I hope and pray that this knowledge does not complicate your ability to understand this study. If you are struggling, that is OK. Just keep reading and it will come into focus as we continue. Let’s move on to explore the dependent symbols given to us by God.
These symbols of the woman clothed with the sun, standing on the moon and crowned with 12 stars are six of the most important dependent parent to child truths that I was referring to earlier. These 6 must be understood accurately in order to correctly identify the dependent woman in Revelation 12 with confidence. In other words, if we understand these symbolic object in detail, we will be more assured of who the woman truly represents.
This is where many Bible teachers and students have started to miss it in their interpretations. Many have focused in on the woman and her child predominately and only 3 of her dependent object relationships, while ignoring the other 3 key symbols given to us by God that are very significant. They usually focus only on the existence of a sun, a moon and the stars and do not attempt to explain what wearing the sun means, standing on the moon means or to be crowned with 12 stars means. Uh oh, that sounds like a very significant problem of partiality or fact and truth omission. This would be like taking 3 facts that you believe you understand and ignoring the other 3 because you don’t understand them.
I will briefly teach concerning the predominate reasoning given by the majority of Bible teachers for the identity of the woman in Revelation 12. The majority of modern Bible teachers believe the woman is Israel because these 3 objects (sun, moon & stars) were found in Genesis 37 given to Joseph by God in the dream. In this dream Joseph was shown that the sun, the moon and 11 stars bowed down to him. Therefore, these teachers have concluded that this dream is close enough to be used to claim these objects collectively represent only the nation of Israel. The key word is “ONLY” in that last sentence. Joseph’s father Jacob interprets the dream and he informs us the sun is him, the moon is Joseph’s mother and the 11 stars are Joseph’s brothers. But, let us ask this question, is that all these objects represent and is this the first time they are mentioned in the Bible? The correct answers to both of these questions is essential to understanding the truth of Revelation 12.
So let me ask you how do we resolve these apparent conflicts? Did you see the conflicts between applying this dream and our application to the woman in Revelation 12 her associated symbol placements? One set of symbols are bowing uniformly in the dream and the other corresponding symbols in Revelation are spread out all over her body from head to toe. Then there is the problem there are only 11 stars and not 12. To this the common answer is Joseph is the 12th star and 11 is close enough to the number 12.
So how do we apply Jacob’s interpretation to Revelation 12? If we did this the woman (Israel) would be clothed with Jacob, standing on Rachel and being crowned with Rueben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin. Does any of these placement make any common or plain sense to you? The most significant problem of conflict would be for the nation of Israel to be standing on Rachel, Jacob’s beloved wife. Being stood upon is not a position of respect or honor. I believe this is a very major fact that is being completely misunderstood or ignored by modern Bible teachers. We will look at this subject in more depth later in this series, but for now let us continue forward to complete this section of our lesson.
Our approach in studying these symbol subjects will be radically different that the approach to other good Bible teachers. We will examine the woman and the child with less focused priority to begin with and shift to focus in on these other three object symbols first. Specifically we will attempt to discover the meanings of how these 3 objects are mentioned by God with their direct functions of being clothed, standing on and crowned with. I believe that when we do this, we will obtain the keys to unlock the identity of this woman in Revelation 12 more precisely. I believe that this is a transformational departure from natural human logic and reasoning. We will soon discover how this new approach will benefit us tremendously in our understanding of truth, while eliminating other women suspects that do not fit with this method of study.
WHAT DO THE GIVEN SYMBOLS MEAN TO GOD?
What does the sun, the moon and the stars all have in common? They are ALL heavenly created bodies that can be seen and observed from the earth. That information right there ought to start us thinking in a different way. What does the earth represent in other symbols given to us in the scriptures? Jesus taught us in the parable of the sower that earth represented the hearts of men. I believe that is very relevant to know so keep that in mind. Then consider this, these objects exist in varying distances from the earth. Also know that the earth revolves around one main object called the sun. Second, the moon revolves around the earth primarily and the sun secondarily and this is very important to understand. Third, the stars are just very distant suns that are too innumerable to count in the heaven. This is just basic cosmological information that we can gather on the internet. But, I believe very sincerely that all of these natural objects have much greater spiritual significance by God’s divine wisdom and design. I believe this based upon Roman 1:20 where God informs us His invisible qualities can be seen being found in the things that He has created in our world. I believe this included the sun, moon and stars.
Let us begin our detail symbol analysis of these objects individually by digging into the crown of 12 stars first and then we will move to the sun clothing next and finally her position of standing on the moon object last.
WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – THE NUMBER 12
Let’s start briefly with the crown of 12 stars and the number 12. I believe that many Bible teachers focus with too much emphasis of the woman’s identity without noticing the significance of the number 12. We should know from Bible study that the number 12 has a lot of significance throughout the entire book from Genesis to Revelation. This number could apply to the natural nation from the man God named Israel who progenerated his 12 sons (Gen 35:22) to produce the 12 tribes of Israel. But the number 12 could also apply to the spiritual church (a spiritual Israel according to Galatians 6:16, 1 Peter 2:9 and others) that also produced 12 spiritual tribes (James 1:1) that originated from the 12 called apostles of the Lamb (Mat 10:2). There are also other twelves in the Bible that I find very interesting. For example, did you know that Ishmael the first son of Abram by Hagar had 12 sons (Gen 25:16)? I wonder why God put that in the Bible? There appears to be a connection to Hagar and the Earthly Jerusalem from reading Galatians 4. However, that is a new problem for a different Bible study. Did you know that the Levite High Priest wore a breastplate with 12 stones with the names of the 12 tribes on them? Did you know that Satan’s breastplate only had 9 stones with one row missing from the Israel Hight Priest breastplate? That too is another problem for another lesson. Did you know that the foundation of the New Jerusalem had 12 layers of similar stones like the High Priest and will contain the names of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb (Rev 21:14)? Did you know that the Tree of Life at the end of Revelation produced 12 kinds of fruit 12 months of every year? There are just a lot of patterns that are in parallel. Did you know that there are 12 gates into the city New Jerusalem? Also in the New Jerusalem we find it is 144 cubits tall which is twelve multiplied by twelve as well as being 12,000 furlongs square? We could go on and on with the number 12 study.
The Number 12 in Biblical numerological terms typically represents a perfected governmental foundation. For example, a jury in a court of Law normally is comprised of 12 Jurors in the U.S. There are over 180 references in the Bible to the number 12. There are 22 references found in the book of Revelation alone. We could spend days on this study of the number 12. It is also important to note that the number 12 is very specifically related by God to be a descriptive quantifier for the number of the “stars” on her head and does not specifically address or identify the woman directly. Even though this number 12 does appear important it is not specific enough to anyone that I have found in the Bible as to establish one possible candidate suspect individually.
What I am trying to teach in this section is that the number 12 is; in and of itself not sufficient evidence to determine which possible candidate could be selected. However, it may be sufficient to exclude or eliminate at least 1 possible candidate. Using this number “12” information alone we could interpret that the woman is potentially either 1). natural Israel or 2). the spiritual church because of the 12 tribe son association. Currently I do not know of any Bible number of 12 that God has associated with the physical natural woman Mary. Therefore, based upon this information we can almost guarantee that the woman is not the physical virgin Mary. However, if you search the internet you will find many people that believe this woman is Mary and they have created pictures of a woman that they call Mary wearing a crown of 12 stars. Personally, I do not agree with them because of what we will learn very soon. But we will explore Mary more as we continue our search and confirmation.
WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – THE STARS
Let’s now go through a brief discussion of the Bible subject of the “stars”. From my study I have found that there are many references in the Bible that directly or indirectly identify stars to be symbolic references to angels. We can see one very important example of this directly in this chapter 12 of Revelation in verse 4. In verse 4 God describes the tail of the dragon sweeping 1/3 of the stars down to the earth from heaven. Most Bible scholars believe this is a clear reference to the number of angels that fell with Lucifer in time past. I do agree with that interpretation completely.
The Greek word G792 translated as “star” is the word that we are currently discovering. This is the Greek word found in Revelation 12:1 and 4. It is used by God in the New Testament 24 times in 21 verses. Wow, 12 + 12 = 24 and there are 12 stars on her head. I wonder if that is significant? Revelation chapter 1 verses 16 and 20 also provides some very relevant star information and definition. In verse 16 of Revelation 1, Jesus is described to have seven stars in His hand. Then in verse 20 Jesus Himself defines what this symbol means by saying the 7 stars are the 7 angels of the 7 churches.
Now we are really getting much deeper into this star subject than I really wanted to, but we will continue. The Greek word G32 is this word translated as angel widely in the New Testament. However, God does occasionally use this word to mean a “messenger” and even a “pastor”. We know heavenly angels are widely used as messengers for God, sent to people on the earth. We can find this in the Old and New Testament several times. In the KJV Bible, translators chose to translate G32 as “messenger” in 7 verses. For example, it is used this way in Matthew, Mark and Luke to describe John the Baptist and his disciples. It is translated as “messenger of Satan” in 2 Corinthians 12:7 in reference to the thorn in Paul’s side that he prayed for God to take from him three times. Finally, in the book of James it is written and used to describe the two spies that were sent into Jericho for Rahab the harlot’s salvation.
Ok, this word translated as angel, angels, messenger or messengers is also used in the seven letters written to the 7 churches in Revelation chapters 2 and 3. Remember Jesus said in Revelation 1 the 7 stars in His right hand were the 7 angels. But, I believe that these references should also be messengers or more specifically “pastors”. You see Jesus said in the letters “Unto the angel of the church of ….”. Why would Jesus write a letter to an heavenly angel when He can simply call them over and talk to that angel in heaven at anytime He wants. That just doesn’t logically make sense to me.
No, I believe these 7 angels in Revelation 2 and 3 should be referred to as the 7 pastors that bring the message of God to His people in the church. Jesus is bringing us information for the benefit, edification, correction and warning to church people here on the earth. These 7 letters were written for all of our benefit. We in the church are the ones that require the help that is offered.
What I have concluded is that the 12 stars on the head of the woman in Revelation 12 represents the 12 Apostles of the Lamb who were shepherds (aka Pastors) to spread the good news of Jesus to others in the world. Through them this good news spread and the church grew. On the Day of Pentecost there were 120 that were filled with the Holy Spirit (12 times 10 equals 120 an interesting 12 relationship). While the number of 12 Stars does not specifically confirm the church it certainly does not eliminate the church either to be the woman. I can see how some could believe the 12 stars could possibly represent the 12 tribes of Israel. However, why they are found on a crown should raise a lot of new questions If you are able to see things differently you are welcome to share your verses with me. Let us move the study to that of the “crown” found on her head. This symbolism represents greater priority based upon its direct contact and physical positioning. Which woman does the Bible claim is to be crowned?
WHAT IS THE CROWN OF 12 STARS? – THE CROWN
I will now go over the specific “Crown” symbol to determine who can qualify Biblically to be this crowned woman in Revelation 12. We are going to do this by studying the Greek word G4735 that was translated as “crown”. This Greek word is defined as an “intertwined or woven wreath worn on the head as a symbol of royalty, or as a symbol for the prize for winning the victory in the public games, or as a symbol of honor. I think all of these are great descriptions and helps to narrow the focused candidates very significantly. Think about the definition and then think what else we know of the Bible. If nothing comes in your mind immediately I’ll give you a few important things to consider.
The Greek word translated as “crown” (G4735) is used by the Holy Spirit in 18 N.T. verses. That is a fairly narrow number to study them all but I will be selective to limit the size of the lesson. I would suggest that you go and read them all when you have the time. We will begin with an overview of the Gospels first.
In the Gospels, this Greek word is found 4 times in association with the crucifixion of Jesus. However, in this example it was not used as a crown of victory, honor or royalty but rather as a crown of mockery because it was made of “thorns”. It caused Jesus great pain and great humiliation and caused His head to bleed. Roman’s used this symbol as a mockery to laugh at him crying “Hail the King of the Jews”. Wow, that is the opposite of how the woman in Revelation is described.
Ok, next is the letters to the church and the first time this Greek word is mentioned is in 1 Corinthians 9:24-25. Here we have a very applicable description for the church obtaining this crown. Verse 24 speaks of people running a race and in verse 25 Paul wrote of them seeking for a “corruptible crown”. A corruptible crown is one that will not last, in other words it represents a temporary honor given from a temporary victory. You see in these types of games they never end. It is like the Olympics where runners run every 4 years to compete for the same prize. Someone will obtain the victor’s crown for that race but they know that there will soon be another contest that may be won by another faster, stronger, and younger competitor. It is a very fleeting recognition and victory.
Now Paul by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit compares this temporary crown to a crown that the church is seeking to obtain. This crown he called an “incorruptible crown”. This is a lasting type of honor rewarded from a victorious ending from a life-time of victories. Incorruptible means this crown will not decay or fade to nothing. It will be one that endures eternally. This is a spiritual reward from a spiritual contest. You see the church is told to “Fight the Good Fight” (1 Tim 6:12). The Church is told “Run the Race” (1 Cor 9:24). The church is told “we wrestle not with flesh and blood….” (Eph 6:12). All of these admonitions are types of Olympic events and contests to whom the winner gets the reward. Wow, I think that is amazing. This crown of victory worn by the woman in Revelation 12 sure sounds like the description of a victorious church and we will learn a lot more about who this victory is over very soon in this lesson series.
I am not going to go over any more verses, because of the amount of information, space and time it would take to write about it in full and the time increase required for you to read about it. I will recommend again that you go and search your New Testament for the Greek word G4735 and study them all. I believe you will find overwhelming evidence that this woman in Revelation 12 is only confirmed to be the church based upon this symbol. I have not found a direct reference to it being anyone else using this divinely chosen Greek word. If you know of any verses that describe natural Israel to be a woman with a crown please shared them. I will tell you that there is another woman in Revelation 17 called the “Mystery Babylon the Whore” that claims that she is a queen in Rev 18:7. This certainly does appear to indicate she has or had a crown at one time or the other on her head. She is also called a mother in Rev 17. Wow, we can’t go any deeper in this lesson about this woman, but it is noteworthy to mention.
I will end this section on the crown with 1 Peter 5:4 “When the Chief Shepherd (Jesus) shall appear you will receive a crown (G4735) of glory that will not fade away”. Wow, Wow and Wow. Praise the LORD! Let’ change subjects and learn the most important dependent subject, the Sun.
WHO IS THE SYMBOLIC SUN?
What we need to do now is to address the easiest and most profound symbol concerning the identity of the woman in Revelation 12, the “Sun”. There are literally more confirmations in scripture to the identify the Sun symbol than any other Revelation 12 symbol topic. It is also essential to understand that this woman is said to be “clothed” with the sun and this means that she is literally “wearing” this object. We understand that like any natural clothing this sun must have been “put on” in order for it to be worn. This demonstrates a voluntary act of freewill choice. In other words, a woman goes to her closet and chooses which garment to place on her body on purpose. Therefore, this “sun” clothing is a highly dependent qualifier that MUST be understood in order to determine her identity correctly. Also what it means to be selected as clothing is another major dependent qualifier for determining identity. There are just so many questions that should come to mind if given any thought. For example:
- Who or what is this sun? Is the sun literal or symbolic?
- Why is she wearing the sun?
- What purpose or benefit would it be to be clothed with this object?
- Why is this object described as clothing and not some other relationship?
- What does a woman do with clothing?
- How does a woman choose her clothing?
- If she is wearing the sun, she is wearing light. Who should be a light in the world today?
There are so many questions that could be asked with the need to be understood and answered using the Bible. Let’s get started learning about the “sun”.
The Greek word translated as “sun” in Revelation 12:1 is G2246. This word is used by God in 30 N.T. verses. Strong’s definition is the “sun” as in “a ray”. Thayer says this word means “sun”, “rays of the sun” and “the light of day”. These are just basic facts, but they may not directly help us in understanding God’s symbolic definition of this object enough to identify the object. However, I believe the object’s characteristics will become very relevant, very soon. It is recommended that you go and read every verse where this verse is found, but for time sake we will not list or study these all in this lesson.
The Greek word translated as “clothed” is G4016 and it means “to put on” or to “invest with clothing”. This is an absolutely fascinating concept. The sun is very bright, very warm and hot, the source of life and light for our planet earth. Without the sun’s exact distance from the earth our planet earth would be as all the other planets without life. The sun is also the closest star to our planet and the center of our solar system that everything else in this system revolves around. These physical attributes actually give us parallels into the spiritual realm and help us to identify who this symbolic spiritual sun is. Let us list the physical qualities of the sun again for any that may have missed them. The Sun is:
- The Source of Natural Day Light
- The only Bright Light of Day
- One Major Source for Life on Earth
- The Source of Natural Heat and Warmth
- Only Visible during the Day when we normally work
- Not Visible at Night when we normally sleep
These might seem very obvious, but yet we still may not understand the significance to what they could mean. We just read 6 descriptive characteristics of the natural sun that the woman is clothed with. In knowing these we could describe that this woman is wearing, life, light, brightness, warmth and the day. Her clothing is described in these very specific terms. Keep these in mind as we go forward with this study because they are all very important. Also begin to ask yourself who should be clothed with these types of features in the Bible?
So what or who does this symbolic sun represent? I will not keep you in suspense any longer because the “Sun” according to many verses found in the Bible is one of the key symbols for “the Lord Jesus Christ”. It is always good to just search the entire Bible for the word “sun”. Then read all of the verses. I did this to find the word 160 times in the KJV Bible in 152 verses. The vast majority of verses God is speaking of the literal created sun object in the sky. But there are a number of verses where God uses the term in a figurative or symbolic way to describe a greater spiritual truth. We do not have the time to address every verse, but, I found one quickly that literally should shake our internal spirit being. After I read this verse I knew in my spirit that must apply to our subject search. Let us read a direct verse reference example of a figurative “sun” found in the book of Malachi:
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Here we see a verse that God speaks directly about Jesus Christ, but without using His direct name. God in this verse does not call Jesus His “SON of Righteousness”, but rather He names Him the “SUN of Righteousness”. God says “Sun” not “Son”. If this was me speaking it could have been a typo, because I am human and have done that kind of mistake before. But, because it is God speaking, I believe He said what He meant and meant what He said. Surely everyone can see this and understand who God is talking about? If not, take note of the fact that something or someone is named as the Sun and that he or it will be rising somewhere to bring healing to someone through the gift of righteousness. Also, note that God says this sun rises and this must be a symbolic spiritual prophecy of someone or something that will bring healing.
Finally note the beginning statement from this prophecy that claims this is ONLY for them that “fear His name”! Who can that be? That is one of our first major clues because we should all claim to be “IN” that classification. Please pay attention to what I just said using the word “IN”. Could this a factor for identifying who is wearing the sun in Revelation 12? Isn’t being clothed with something the same as saying she is “IN” it? Could these people be those that possess the “fear” (honor, respect, and awe) of God’s name? Now with all that in mind, let’s research, find and confirm who this Sun of Righteousness represents:
2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
In this verse we can see some amazing parallels to what we just read in Malachi 4:2. Here we can see another reference to Jesus being a light that rises and shines in the hearts of us believers. We can also clearly see that He is called the “Day Star“. This is just another way to describe the closest star to our planet that shines during the daylight hours and is normally called our “Sun”. Do you get it? Remember when we learned that the “Sun” object could inherit from the parent “star” object to contain additional new features with specific new data types, methods and descriptions. God created the sun as a “day star” and it is usually the only object that is visible until the sun sets. The other stars are not normally visible until the darkness of night. These are very important created facts that teach us things in the unseen spiritual dimension of truth that we may have never learned.
Calling and describing the exact same object by different symbols, names, titles and descriptions is a very wise method that God uses to hide the meaning of the sun. Using these differing symbols, names, titles and descriptions permits Him to conceal it while simultaneously placing it in plain sight. This methodology of composition makes the information more challenging to search and find. But, it also gives us new descriptive qualities to learn about in every different example.
Jesus is clearly again called the spiritual Sun (Star Shinning during the Day) that rises in the human heart. The reference to dawn is a description of sunrise when light first breaks in the morning and the darkness has to vanish. Notice how the earth is the one that turns and not the sun. Notice how this turning of the earth reflects symbolically a position of repentance moving out of the darkness and into the light of day! God’s wisdom seen in the creation of these natural objects is amazing.
These are all spiritual truths reflected using natural symbolism. Who in this verse is God referring to that the “Day Star” should arise within? Again, this should be those people that have repented to turn into the “Light” of Jesus Christ. I claim to be guilty of receiving this light of life and I pray you are also one in this group.
But, wait, We are not done yet. For those who still may be skeptical we will continue to go through more spiritual witnesses to the truth to see the TRUE identity of the symbolic Sun. This time our witness will be the LORD Jesus himself talking:
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Here we have the same implemented method that is used by God, of calling the Sun by still another new name. This time Jesus claims that He is the Sun being called the “Bright Morning Star“. This is another reference to the “dawn” when the Sun rises. We understand this through God’s usage of the term “morning”. We can easily understand that Jesus is claiming to be the spiritual “Sun” that rises in the hearts of Christians to bring us light into our previously very darkened spirits. If this is not understandable this might be a great time to ask Him to come into your heart and save you. After you do this He will rise up on the inside of you to help you to see things like this to be true. Just stop and pray ask saying “LORD Jesus I repent and turn to you, please be my LORD and bring me light to see you and your truth, Amen”.
Have you ever looked into the physical sun accidently and noticed how bright it is? The woman in Revelation 12 who is clothed with the sun would also be called to be this bright. This verse in Revelation 12:1 is referring to this bright star (Sun) that rises in the morning of human hearts that have turned. These are radical new and different terms and ways of thinking. But these should be helping us to understand who this woman in Revelation 12 could only represent.
The reason some people have not seen this reference before, is because they think this morning star is a reference to a planet like Venus. But, that interpretation ignores the fact that God says this is a “star” and not a planet. Venus is clearly not a star. These are also the words of Jesus telling us personally who He is, Jesus is not a dead planet, but rather He is the life giving star of our planet (hearts). Let us continue to go to another new title for the same Sun. This time it is in the prophecy of John the Baptist’s father when speaking of Jesus:
Luk 1:78 Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,
So Jesus is prophesied to be the “Dayspring”. If you look up the definition of this Greek word G395 in the Strong’s it means “a rising light”. Isn’t this what the sun does every day? You can also see that this is the same synonymous meaning of “dawn” when the sun rises in the east. What we can see is another clear reference to the coming of Jesus into the world as being liken to the rising of Sun to bring light to those that were in darkness. When Jesus was born into the world He brought the light from heaven with Him. Remember what or who light is in the Bible? Read 1 John 1:5 where we are clearly informed “God is Light and in Him is NO darkness”. Uh oh, that sounds very important to me. Remember what Jesus said in John 9:5 “As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world”. Jesus was claiming to be a spiritual sun and not a natural light. Jesus did not walk around glowing in the dark. Let us go to another reference for the identity of the Sun from the mouth of Jesus. We will stay in the book of John and read from chapter 8 and verse 12:
Joh 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
WOW! You do understand the source of the light and life for our planet, yes? The natural sun produces the light on our planet and is the primary source of life also. In this verse in John, Jesus reveals himself to be the spiritual light of the world and the source of spiritual life. This is a direct parallel to the physical nature of the sun light of our world. We can clearly see that Jesus informs us if we continue to follow Him, that we would NOT walk in darkness. Wow, can we see the message? If we were walking IN darkness that is a very similar concept to being clothed in this substance of darkness. But, if we choose to walk IN the light this appears to say we could be be clothed with His “light” (the Sun). Wow, we are getting ahead in the next section of the lesson. But that should have just produced some new light in our hearts.
Jesus is referring to the heart of man in this verse and tells us that He will light us internally, or spiritually by us believing in Him. Since the physical sun is one key for the source of natural life on this planet, we can understand that the spiritual Sun of Righteousness is the spiritual source for our spiritual eternal life. What we have is a natural pattern being given to us for a far greater and much more significant spiritual reality. We can see the same physical qualities being described of the natural sun to be found in Jesus. Jesus is calling himself the “Light of Life”, these are clearly types of the symbolic sun. Jesus is calling himself the light of the world, that again is by nature the sun. Jesus says we will not walk in darkness or the night, because again we have or choose to be IN Him the source of our life as our personal Sun.
There are many verses in the Bible that we could include in this lesson to illustrate the truth of the identity of the symbolic “Sun” clothing being Jesus Christ. We will only go with one more that repeats some of the basics that we have already learned from other verses. Here is a verse written directly to the church about the church and our Savior:
2Co 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
This verse is very informative. It first confirms that the Genesis 1 account contains hidden spiritual prophetic statements within it. God who on day 1 of creation, commanded the light to be, declares that this was a prophesied future spiritual event that would occur when Jesus came to manifest on te earth. The location of this shining or enlightenment is clearly given to be the hearts of mankind. This is the inward spiritual location of our eternal spirit being. Then the verse ends with how this occurs. It is through knowing Christ. Finally, there is a reference given to the “face” of Jesus Christ. I found that this is fascinating and informative also. We can see this concept in the book of Revelation describing the “face” of Jesus:
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
You see in this verse of Revelation, God is describing some spiritual qualities of Jesus Christ. I’ll skip the first two and go directly to the last part of that verse that says “his countenance was as the sun shining in his strength”. Isn’t that an interesting way to describe Jesus? The word “countenance” can be translated as “face”. So the “face” of Jesus is said to be symbolically shining like the sun at noonday. This I believe is highly significant and just further confirms that Jesus Christ is the symbolic Sun found in Revelation 12. Here is a list of scriptures that all refer to Jesus Christ in terms describing Him to be the Sun. Some of these I have given you already and some are new:
- The Sun of Righteousness (Mal 4:2)
- The Greater Light that Rules the Day (Gen 1:16)
- The Day Star (2 Peter 1:19)
- The Bright and Morning Star (Rev 22:16)
- The Morning Star (Rev 2:28)
- The Dayspring (Luke 1:78)
- The True Light (John 1:9, 1 John 2:8)
- The Light of the World (John 8:12, John 9:5)
- The Light of Life (John 8:12)
- The Sun (Rev 1:16, Rev 12:1)
This should be overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ is the Sun. Therefore, I have concluded from all of these verses that the Bible informs us this symbolic sun in Revelation 12 must be the LORD Jesus Christ and not Jacob. Now we must confirm who is instructed or commanded to wear this symbol in the Bible? We have already seen some great clues in this section that should have raised our expectation level. This is where we will go next. Afer you expecting to receive anything else new? I hope so.
WHO IN THE BIBLE IS TO WEAR THE SUN?
Let us now approach this subject from a different angle to give us some additional perspectives on this topic for determining the identity of the Sun in relation to the identity of the woman. I want to specifically focus on any commandment in the Bible given by God for anyone to be clothed with Jesus. Is the church ever told to wear this symbolic sun? As you recall, the woman in Revelation 12 is said to be clothed with the Sun. Of course the church must be commanded to wear the Sun in order to be qualified to be the woman in Revelation 12. But realize that this command may not just be in so many direct obvious words as we have already learned. This again is one way that God hides the truth for a given time to reveal it. We have to look for it, study it and allow the Holy Spirit to show us. We started this discovery by allowing the Holy Spirit to bring us through a process for understanding who the spiritual Sun represents. By now I believe that you can see that the spiritual Sun is Jesus Christ. Now let us direct our focus upon verses applying the new knowledge of who the Bible says is the symbolic Sun looking for verses that instructs someone to wear Jesus Christ directly (Jesus, Lord, Christ, etc.) or indirectly (light, sun, etc.). Here is one verse that found that is amazing:
Rom 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
The Greek word G1746 that was translated as “put on” here means to “invest with clothing” or to “be clothed” with. Interesting, is it not? Isn’t this what God was talking about, to be clothed with the Sun in Revelation 12? If Jesus Christ is the Sun, and we have clearly seen that He is, then the church is instructed to wear this Sun like clothing in this verse. This verse in Romans tells us to wear Jesus Christ like a physical garment, robe or a coat. If Jesus is the Light and the Sun, then we would be wearing the correct symbol describing the woman in Revelation 12, right? Please relate only this news with being a Christian.
What does it mean to “put on ” Christ? We know that God is Light. Therefore, if we are required as Christians to put on Christ’s Light this should cause Him to become visible outwardly as we live our our lives on the earth before those that are still walking in darkness. I believe people need to be able to see Christ’s light in our actions, our morals, in our choices and life styles long before they hear our words about Jesus. Remember what we learned about when Jesus spoke to us in John? He said “as long as I am in the world I am the light of the world”. He is not physically here on the earth now, but we are. Therefore, Jesus said this in Matthew 5:14 “You are the light of the world, a city on a hill that cannot be hid”. Wow what an amazing choice of words. If we lived as if were clothed with His righteousness and feared His name would this cause us to live Holy in the world so that they could not do anything but notice how different we were from them?
This is God’s major participating power that is being used in developing the identity of the woman that appears in heaven in Revelation 12. Can you as a Christian see yourself clothed in His light? Can others in the world see this light? Here is another witness to this revelation:
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Again we clearly see a new synonymous reference of the church being clothed when we were baptized into Christ. To be naturally baptized represents a complete immersion and the covering of the body by water. This is clearly a symbolic type of reference for a person wearing something like a robe. The parallels of jumping into water completely is very analogous to jumping into a piece of clothing.
In this verse we are wearing symbolic water and in Revelation 12 we are wearing the Light of the World (the Sun). We must understand that water and light are both key elements of the source of natural life on our planet. Without either of these life would not exist. But we must also understand that Water is a symbol of the Word of God (Eph 5:26). Then can further confirm this connection because Jesus is called by the title of the “Word of God” in Revelation 19:13. Therefore, we can logically conclude that if we are told that we were baptized into Christ this means were clothed with His Word. I know this is all different than what we may have been taught and very new deep revelations. But, this is what God is teaching us from the Bible.
Now if that is true then according to this verse we also have “put on” Christ. Put on again means to “be clothed” with Christ. The church should be going around wearing the garment of Jesus Christ, right here, right now. Let’s look at a new verse:
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
In this verse it compares two opposing states of human existence. One is in the physical with the other one being in the spiritual. The words “borne” and “bear” are the same Greek word that means to “wear”. God is telling us that we (our spirits) previously wore only our flesh bodies, but now we have been circumcised to remove this flesh nature (Rom 2:29, Col 2:11) and to be re-clothed with a heavenly new nature of the Spirit. This is what is means to put on Christ and we are required to turn from our previous state of behavior in the darkness.
This will become very obvious to what God is talking about as we continue to learn and grow in knowing Him. I hope and pray that everyone is beginning to see this. When the Light comes in, the darkness will no longer have the ability to blind us from seeing the truth. Let us briefly go over an Old Testament prophecy that goes into a bit of relevant information on this topic of wearing the “Sun”.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
So as we read this prophecy in Daniel it should be self evident that it is talking about the church. The church is the only group that is attempting to turn anyone from their darkness into the righteousness of Jesus Christ. But, notice the terms that are used. It declares that we will “shine” with a “brightness”. The firmament is another word for the sky. This is the earth’s atmosphere when it is lit by the sun and it can be very intensely bright. This is a clear reference to the “day”. This could describe someone that is wearing the sun? This chapter in Daniel is an end time prophetic message. It describes many things that are occurring right now. In context with that we see the righteous being hailed as light bearers. Jesus made several statements in regard to this also. In calling Himself the light of the world in John, He also said “ye are the light of the world” in Matthew as we looked at earlier. How can the church and Jesus both be the same light object? It is only possible and makes sense if we have put Christ on and wear Him around for others to see. This is the same revelation of letting Jesus be seen on the outside in the visible world that we have on the inside of us. Too many Christians want to keep Jesus on the inside and never let Him be seen outside of a physical church building. This is not what the Bible says to do. We are to wear Jesus Christ like a garment so that everyone can clearly see Him. Here is another very relevant scripture on the subject of wearing the Sun.
Isa 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
God has clothed the church with the garment of Salvation first and then the robe of Righteousness second. After we believe in Jesus we are saved an then we were reborn in the Spirit to be made His righteousness. Remember who the Sun of Righteousness was. It is Jesus Christ. So we have very clear evidence that the church is to be clothed with the Spiritual Sun of Jesus Christ our Redeemer. So the primary clothing in Bible days were not jeans and t-shirts, but were then robes. So we can understand that to be clothed with the Robe of Righteousness means everyday clothing and not just a special one time wedding garment.
The Hebrew word translated as righteousness is the exact same word found in Malachi 4:2 describing Jesus as the Sun of Righteousness. So Isaiah 61:10 describing the church clothed in the Robe of Righteousness is definitely related to the verse in Malachi 4:2 describing our Savior the Sun of Righteousness. This is not an accident nor was it placed in the Bible by chance. This is God’s designed plan to reveal this information at the right time of the end of the church age. I’ll end this Bible lesson with just one more reference since this has become a long Part 1 lesson.
Rom 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
So we can see another very similar word association being made by God the author. This time the church is told to put on the “armor of light” by first taking off the works of darkness. Since it does not take a rocket scientist or a doctorate degree to figure out where we get our daylight from we can see the connections being made very easily, I think it is clear that we are being told to put on the Sun as our protection against our enemy Satan. This clothing that we are commanded to put on, is now described in a military design as the “armor of light”. Armor is what a soldier would wear for protection against an enemy in battle. Modern body armor is common place for Police, law enforcement and military personnel. These are all people that have enemies of evil trying to kill them. We will soon learn from the meaning of other symbols given in Revelation 12 that this is true for Christians and this symbolic woman. This “light” armor should have the same protecting affect for us as Christians. By a Christian wearing light we are walking in the light and we should never be found in the darkness again. The clear reference in this verse is to the spiritual day versus the spiritual night condition of our hearts.
Notice that in putting on this armor we are commanded to remove the works of darkness. That is amazing confirmation that us wearing the sun means for us to act as though Jesus was walking on the earth in the flesh in front us, on the side of us and behind us watching over everything we do. By doing this we will present His thoughts, His Words and His actions to everyone living in the night where we use to be.
So there are many verses that instruct the church to shine and put on Christ removing the influence of past darkness. I’ll end with the words of Jesus himself that also speak prophetically about the church at the end of the world:
Mat 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
The Words of God, from the mouth of the True and Faithful One declares the righteous will be the ones that will shine forth as the sun at the end of the world. Doesn’t that testify and witness to your heart that the righteous church will be the woman wearing the “Sun of God”? It sure does to my heart.
We have been going over numerous topics concerning the woman in Revelation 12. We analyzed the symbols in verse 1 and made a list to study. We then went though the three items associated with the crown. These were the number 12, the stars and the crown itself and the meanings of each. It would appear that this evidence pointed us to the identity of the woman in Revelation 12 pointed us to the suspect of the Church or Israel with more evidence leaning towards the Church.
We then moved to the most significant symbol called the “sun”. This symbol was and is the easiest to identify because He is the central figure and theme of the entire Bible. We were provided numerous key scriptures that pointed us to the identity of the symbolic Sun as being Jesus Christ. This was us, allowing God to interpret His own symbols.
We were then able to allow God to reveal several other verses that either instruct, prophesy or declare the church to be clothed with this Sun Light. We can learn and confirm this truth further in many other verses in the Bible that were not covered yet, but we will end now with this question:
What woman in the Bible must be clothed with Jesus Christ (the SUN of RIGHTEOUSNESS) in order to enter into the Kingdom of God?
We can certainly eliminate a lot of the 4 potential suspect candidates for this woman in Revelation 12. I do not know of any other woman in the Bible that can be clothed with His Righteousness. She cannot be natural Israel also known as the Earthly Jerusalem because God says the righteous that is of the law will not or cannot be saved (Rom 9:31).
This woman cannot be the heavenly Jerusalem because this woman is called a widow not being in covenant with God anymore in Isaiah 54:4. We know this woman in this verse represents the barren allegorical Sarah by reading back up in Isaiah 54:1 to know and understand that this verse about the rejoicing barren woman is quoted in Galatians 4:27. And in Galatians 4:26 we discover this woman is the Jerusalem that is Above in the heavenly realm and she is the mother of all that will be born again unto salvation. Wow, we did not cover any of this in today’s lesson because that would take a lot of revelation and explanation. But, that is a taste of things that should be coming to eliminate this woman as being the one mentioned in Revelation 12. I would recommend that you do some reading and digging on your own and ask the Holy Spirit to show you why this city in heaven is called as “widow” and what that means in the subject of covenants. Never forget Hebrews 12:22 where God defines the Jerusalem Above to be called the “Heavenly Jerusalem” that is comprised of an enumerable company of spiritual beings called angels. This had to consist of Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel and the rest of the heavenly host. We learn from our chapter study of Revelation 12 that 1/3 of these beings were swept down to earth having fallen by the tail of the dragon (Satan). Wow, that is enough of a taste of what should be talked about in subsequent lessons.
This woman in Revelation 12 cannot even be natural woman Mary because she needed salvation to enter into the Kingdom of God the same as everyone else that will believe. Just figuring out the identity of the single dependent symbolic “Sun” and how and who can be clothed with Him, changes the meaning of the woman in chapter 12 of Revelation dramatically.
This lesson number 1 has only introduced us to the subject and yet we still have a lot more to learn. In the next lesson the Lord willing we will talk more about the other key symbols, especially the moon, who it represents and what it means to stand on this object. This should help us better understand this woman’s true identity. I believe the second most important symbol in this dependent truth relationship is the “moon” under her feet. God Bless you and I pray that you have the spiritual eyes and vision to see and to understand GOD’S HOLY WORD WHOLY.
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